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["Don Titmus" <ujgs2@4dirs.com>]

Yes I believe that a rocket stove is a good idea and  would be a good mid 
way solution, especially for wetter times when a paper oven would not. Then 
combine that with the "Water Straw" so only food cooking would be needed and 
your even closer to saving lives and what's left of the trees.

Don

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Jackson" <sidgeydog@yahoo.com>
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Tools for poor


> It seems that something like a rocket stove might be more appropriate in 
> situations like this.  If people are already heating with wood, teaching 
> how to do it more efficiently could be a better way.
> Chris
>
> Don Titmus <ujgs2@4dirs.com> wrote: culturally appropriate....still gets 
> them killed. Unless and untill
> education is consistant nobody will change!
>
> Insert the USA's obsession with the SUV,  the 5 bedroom house for 2 (in 2
> states) and the Jones's complex on meth.
>
> I cant wait for $6.00/gallon petrol
>
> Don
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Toby Hemenway"
> To: "ibiblio list"
>
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Tools for poor
>
>
> > People I know took solar box cookers to Chad and taught villagers to use
> > them. They came back a year later to follow up, and couldn't find a 
> > single
> > box cooker. No one would tell them what happened to them, until they
> > noticed
> > that lots of the people's clothing had shiny bits of mylar sewn into it.
> > Somewhat self-consciously one of the villagers explained, "We cook with
> > wood. But look at the nice jewelry we made from the boxes."
> >
> > These tools need to be culturally appropriate.
> >
> > Toby
> > http://patternliteracy.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/5/07 7:31 AM, "Don Titmus"  wrote:
> >
> > > One item that has been sent to 3rd world countries for many years has
> > > been
> > > the cardboard box solar cooker from Kerr-Cole. Simple, cheap and
> > > effecient
> > > at water purifiying and cooking foods that remove the need for wood. 
> > > This
> > > then saves the lives of many women.
> > >
> > > Don
> >
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