permaculture

[Paul Cereghino <paul.cereghino@comcast.net>]

violence is violence
love is love
Permaculturalists seem to have no problem thinking
a lesser world for us to dominate
I haven't met any permies in real life
there is going to be a war in Asia
understand as any other pattern
honourable planet raper
what are you sources of info to the contrary
Hochunk people listening to what the chickens were saying
I can go slowly and not try
You've got your hands full
in the name of their religion
of water hyacinth compost
weapons grade material

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*Alan:* /How did you come up with the idea of permaculture? What led up 
to it?/

*Bill:* I'd come into town from the bush - after 28 years of field work 
in natural systems - and become an academic. So I turned my attention to 
humans, much as I had to possums in the forests. /Humans/ were my study 
animal now - I set up night watches on them, and I made phonograms of 
the noises they make. I studied their cries, and their contact calls, 
and their alarm signals. I never listened to what they were saying - I 
watched what they were /doing/... I soon got to know my animal fairly 
well - and I found out that it didn't /matter/ what they were saying. 
What they were /doing/ was very interesting, but it had no relation 
whatsoever to either what they were saying, or what questions they could 
answer about what they were doing. No relationship. Anyone who ever 
studied mankind by /listening/ to them was self-deluded. The first thing 
they should have done was to answer the question, "Can they report to 
you correctly on their behavior?" And the answer is, "No, the poor 
bastards cannot."