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[Niels Corfield <mudguard@gmail.com>]

Sean Maley wrote:

> --- Niels Corfield <mudguard@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
> > Ken Wilber gives a very compelling argument on this matter in his book A 
> > Theory of Everything (T.O.E.)
> >    
>
> It would appear that Wilber collects Quinn readers, as well.  As I can't 
> stomach the metaphysical
> explanation of everything physical, I'll leave it to Niels with his excellent 
> distillation of
> Wilber's theories.  
Thanks my head is swelling.

> However, I do flag T.O.E. as a taker mindset, given it's attempt to encompass
> everything.
>
>  

Just to say, Wilber is quite clear that a T.O.E. is not an acheivable 
goal and that the value in it is most likely to be in where it fails.

> I make a distinction between looking into a bubble and being in it.  Where 
> Wilber attempts to
> describe the bubbles, I perceive his theories as outside looking in, much as 
> a hierarchy seeks a
> branch.  Since permaculture requires observation to be applied, I perceive 
> inside looking out,
> much as a rhizome adapts to new soil. 
Doesn't it need to be both. Observer, has compassion for the observed, 
and vice versa.

> Hierarchy can, of course, be useful for fitting concepts
> into our monkeysphere.  On the other hand, pyramid imagery provides a more 
> accessible way of
> conveying the root problems of culture than what Wilber provides.
>
>  
Ah there's plenty on that front, didn't I mention Purple, Red or Blue? ;-)
And yes the spiral does get smaller to the bottom.

Cheers,
N*

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