permaculture

[Sean Maley <semaley@yahoo.com>]

--- Jara <jara@otenet.gr> wrote:
> Sean,
> 
> This is brilliant ! You have put into words here what I have been trying to 
> express a whole lifetime ! Thanks a lot ! Where did you get the Rhizome 
> Culture concept from ?
> 
> Andrew.

Ultimately, much of this comes from Daniel Quinn.  More directly, where I 
picked it up from, would
be Jeff Vail and his memetic theory of power.  Somehow, all of this seams 
similar to understanding
the Tao Te Ching.  We have text after text saying these things, giving words 
for the concepts, yet
it sometimes takes making a nuisance of oneself to finally get it.  From 
finally understanding the
nature of the problem, so to speak, the conundrum of "what to do" posses 
itself.  On this, few
agree.

Distinguishing between rhizome and hierarchy cultures from the Quinn 
perspective:
 Rhizome, or Leavers believe "We belong to Earth".
 Hierarchy, or Takers believe "the world was made for man and man was made to 
rule it"

Permaculture within the context of Hierarchy keeps me up at night.  
Fortunately, the two pose a
paradox.  Some of the Quinn inspired discussions can be found at 
anthropic.com , as Toby has
mentioned and participated over there.  Other Quinn inspired activity places 
permaculture in the
realm of "intentional foraging" and provides incite into so called "primitive 
culture", as Toby
has discussed at anthropic.

Currently, many more hearts and minds have crossed over than lifestyles.  We 
have the realities of
hierarchy to consider in how we, as individuals, follow our hearts and minds 
to the other side,
beyond civilization.  Many of us reject wealth in an effort to enjoy a simple 
life and run from
the problem at the same time.  Unfortunately, wealth is required, so that 
land can be secured and
then improved.  With reclaimed land, we can begin to provide place without 
labor strings attached
for the wayward and the homeless.  With more reclaimed land, we can then 
transition the struggling
burger flippers into an easier, healthier lifestyle.  As the burger flippers 
and bum disappear,
the foundation of the hierarchy fails (hierarchy needs you to feel 
threatened, so work without
questioning).  With no wayward and struggling masses, there can be no army to 
come take our land
back from us.  With no "one way" for destabilizing the labor base, the 
hierarchy can not fight
back.  One or two rhizomes won't make it.  This must be a global movement to 
be effective.


-Sean.

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