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[Martin Naylor <martinwnaylor@yahoo.com.au>]

Hi
  "We are forced to define our own meanings" 
  Who said so, thought is the only thing that could, and in most cases out of 
fear of the unknown which is something that can never be known, things like 
death
   
  Humans have been doing this since they dropped out of the trees [well 
thought has been playing these games] 
  through every tribe culture and religion including the present day
  So what you have is thought which is entirely built on the past [memory] 
creating the present and projecting into the future with total failure [well 
it will be shortly for the vast majority]
  If we could except thought as useful for work and communication and be in 
the ever changing moment then we are at the beginning the journey and the end 
simultaneously
  and there is nothing stoping you until thought jumps back in to assert it's 
dominance [observe your own thoughts as your reading and when you finish] 
this is either true or false
  I guess this is zone 0 [home] in permaculture terms
  Martin

"Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net> wrote:
  
Is list consensus that a netiquette guide for the PC list
homepage should be created or is an anarcho-unregulated freethinking
eschatological* existential* mode preferred?

* http://www.arcosanti.org/theory/glossary/eschat.html
Paolo Soleri's Glossary of Terms
Eschatological Hypothesis
"An hypothesis framed in the propostion that a meaningful end is in the realm 
of the possible and definitely in the
realm of the desirable. The hypothesis sees the resolution of the becoming 
(of reality) into Omega Seed , that is, into
the reawakening of all the past in a state of total self revelation.
Since the truth is in the making (it is not a given) for the obvious reason 
that reality itself is in the making and the
reality is the only arbiter, in fact the only "definer" of the truth (if it 
is), the eschatological end is not
pre-defined, preordained, predestined, predesigned (all of those are from the 
realm of mandate from above). Therefore
the hypothesis has no guarantee tags in the sense of what and why. The 
grassroots procedure is the one that might
develop the Howness conducive to the slow emergence of the what and why, that 
is, of what the desirable could be."

* http://www.tameri.com/csw/exist
"Existentialism attempts to describe our desire to make rational decisions 
despite existing in an irrational universe. 
Unfortunately, life might be without inherent meaning (existential atheists) 
or it might be without a meaning we can 
understand (existential theists). Either way, the human desires for logic and 
immortality are futile. We are forced to 
define our own meanings, knowing they might be temporary."




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