permaculture

[Greg <FarmerGreg@UrbanFarm.org>]

All,

I have to agree with both Scott and Kevin, Larry does an impeccable 
job of managing, collecting and distributing data for the 
permaculture community and for this he deserves a standing ovation. 
I sure couldn't or wouldn't want to do it.

Having been the target of flaming however (which I responded to in 
kind, so I am not pointing fingers here) I know first hand how it 
feels to be verbally attacked on this list.

I know what I am good at.  Put me in front of a camera or in front of 
a large group of people and I shine.  I am learning what I am not 
good at (usually by messing up, hurting someone or getting hurt 
myself) and then I have a choice to do something different.

Larry - Perhaps you could spend your time on what you do really well 
and turn over the moderation to someone else.

Greg


> Gang,
>
> I'm gonna have to second Scotty's opinion here. Lawrence has busted his ass
> putting this list and others together from scratch. He may be strident at
> times, but aren't we all? Please forgive him his tresspasses and so to will
> yours be allowed on this list. Besides, without dialectic there is no
> democracy.
>
> Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Pittman" <pci@permaculture-inst.org>
> To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 8:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] " a bridge over troubled waters"
>
>
> >  It is very disturbing to me that a certain amount of capriciousness has
> >  entered the management of this list which has led to people leaving the
> >  list and searching for alternatives.  I hope this is fixable.
> >
> >  This list has been a fixture in the Permaculture Movement
> >  internationally and I depend on it for good healthy dialogue,
> >  information, and continuity in my connection around the world with other
> >  Permies.  To lose such a resource would be a tragic thing, so it seems
> >  that all of us must come up with a way to stop the hemorraging of
> >  membership, and how to deal with management of the list that is more in
> >  the tradition of  participatory democracy (to use an old SDS term) and
> >  less subject to caprice.
> >
> >  I think that Lawrence has done an amazing job of putting all of the
> >  various PC links together and how he has managed to not only create them
> >  but monotor them is beyond me, but, perhaps, a little help is in order.
> >  What do you think Larry is there a way we can satisfy the members need
> >  for a non-flammable environment.
> >
> >  Scott Pittman
>
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