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Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock
- From: Marimike6@cs.com
- To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock
- Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:17:20 EST
Paul's sad situation:
>We've had quite a few soil tests done and have not seen anything too scary.
Low boron and low nitrogen. Organic matter of 2% to 5%. Most of the soils
look
like gravel.
Paul- I'm so far from being an expert it's not funny. But your low
nitrogen-high drainage soils sound so much like mine I'll hazard a suggestion.
My guess is that most crops don't readily take in your field because the
rainwater doesn't even slow down in the gravel. It doesn't hit bottom until
it
reaches the water table. Your seedlings half get started, then expire from
drought the first breezy afternoon.
Any absorbent, bulky material you can find to leaven your field of rocks will
help retain water. Organic materials are easily the best. Depending on price,
hay might be better than peat. Peat's pricey. If you buy hay, be sure to feed
it through a chipper-shredder one time to turn it into powder. Then till the
powder in (one pass is fine) so it mixes with the grit. If you have a lot of
leaves, shred them too and spread them on your field before tilling. This
method is labor intensive, but will retain your water much better.
And the longer the water stays in the soil, the less your nutrients will
leach away. So it's a win-win. But you'll find your soil's appetite for
amendments
is bottomless. A truckload of chaff will disappear in a twinkling.
For small areas like flower beds, I save coffee grounds. Nothing improves a
thin, gritty soil better. Cow and horse manure's good too, but be sure it is
aged, not fresh. The fresh stuff is a little sharp tasting for your crops.
Last ditch suggestion: see whether your local municipality has any leftover
mulch. Parks and Recreation often chips up the trees they prune or get rid of
and then has no place to put the chips. A truckload of this stuff put through
the shredder a second time will do the same job. If you have a choice,
hardwood
mulch is nutritious. Pine mulch isn't.
Best wishes on your adventure in the dirt!
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Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock
, (continued)
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Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 12/29/2004
- Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock, Toby Hemenway, 12/29/2004
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Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock,
Marimike6, 12/29/2004
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Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 12/29/2004
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[permaculture] toxicity of black locust,
Paul Wheaton, 12/29/2004
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Re: [permaculture] toxicity of black locust,
dwoodard, 12/29/2004
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Re: [permaculture] toxicity of black locust,
Paul Wheaton, 12/30/2004
- Re: [permaculture] toxicity of black locust, dwoodard, 12/31/2004
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Re: [permaculture] toxicity of black locust,
Paul Wheaton, 12/30/2004
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Re: [permaculture] toxicity of black locust,
dwoodard, 12/29/2004
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[permaculture] toxicity of black locust,
Paul Wheaton, 12/29/2004
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Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 12/29/2004
- Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock, Marimike6, 12/29/2004
- Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock, Marimike6, 12/30/2004
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Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock,
Marimike6, 12/30/2004
- Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock, Paul Wheaton, 12/30/2004
- Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock, FranksFarm, 12/31/2004
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Re: [permaculture] nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs that feed livestock,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 12/29/2004
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