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- From: "Michael Murphy" <mmurphy@ctsl.com>
- To: <john@eco-living.net>, "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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- Subject: RE: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice
- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:34:16 -0700
"Given the level of technolgy and manufacturing required to do *anything*
with hydrogen as a power source, it will *never* be a locally controllable
resource."
The innovative capitalist system to the rescue! Dozens of people are working
on getting the cost out of small, solar-powered hydrogen generators fed by
water. There will be a standard interface to hydrogen cylinders for cars
that I expect will also be used for stationary power. The Bush
Administration is spending $5 billion on hydrogen infrastructure - not
developing fuel cells, but developing the robotics and interfaces necessary
to deliver standardized hydrogen cylinder swaps in service stations. The
same interface and possibly robotics will be available at home. Anywhere
there is sun and water, you will be able to set up a self-contained hydrogen
generator to fill your cylinders. Go on a long trip, and you just pull into
a service station and swap cylinders. Unlike petroleum and natural gas, it
will be possible for almost anyone almost anywhere to produce hydrogen. Or,
to modify your quote and place it back 30 years to the mainframe era:
"Given the level of technolgy and manufacturing required to do *anything*
with a computer, it will *never* be a locally controllable resource."
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RE: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice,
John Schinnerer, 06/18/2003
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- RE: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice, Michael Murphy, 06/18/2003
- RE: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice, John Schinnerer, 06/19/2003
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Re: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice,
Marimike6, 06/19/2003
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Re: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice,
John Schinnerer, 06/19/2003
- RE: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice, Michele May, 06/21/2003
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Re: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice,
John Schinnerer, 06/19/2003
- RE: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice, Michael Murphy, 06/20/2003
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Re: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice,
Marimike6, 06/20/2003
- Re: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice, John Schinnerer, 06/20/2003
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Fwd: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice,
Marimike6, 06/20/2003
- [permaculture] not enough wood..., Lance Bermudez, 06/20/2003
- RE: [permaculture]Hydrogen, wood, peace, justice, John Schinnerer, 06/26/2003
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