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- From: Misha Gale-Sinex <mgs2369@attbi.com>
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- Subject: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society
- Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:46:35 -0800
Howdy, all--
The Greening Earth Society is an astroturf organization. That is, a phony front group for fossil fuel industry points of view (it was formed by the Western Fuels Association) that poses as a grassroots environmental organization.
Greening Earth was exposed in John Stauber's and Sheldon Rampton's /Trust Us, We're Experts: How Industry Manipulates Science and Gambles with your Future/ (Putnam/Tarcher, 2001). These are folks who also publish /PR Watch/.
Here's what ME3 had to say (Minnesotans for an Energy-Efficient Economy):
http://www.me3.org/issues/climate/greening.html
Here's Viridian's take:
http://www.viridiandesign.org/notes/76-100/00078.html
Viridian is a design project by, I think, some old WELL folks (including Bruce Sterling).
Here is how Grist magazine exposed them about three years ago:
http://www.gristmagazine.com/busted/busted122099.stm
The problem with the carbon-in-soils equation from a human perspective is that we didn't evolve on this planet in an ecosystem where all that carbon was held in the soil. All that carbon was locked up deep down in the rock. For tens to hundreds of millions of years.
In the course of little more than 150 years, we have lifted it out of the earth's crust and put it into the atmosphere.
Sure, it may be possible to get the soil to uptake some amount of carbon...but don't expect the resulting chemistry to be amenable to human evolution. And as ever, humans are in a big-ass hurry, and expect the rest of creation to keep up with our clock-driven rush-fetish.
The Duke press release gets it pretty much right. There are limits to how much fossil matter living organisms can absorb, and at what pace. The most sane policies would act immediately to stop excavating below-ground carbon and seek alternatives--like the nearly limitless flows of photon, kinetic (wind and surf), and other energies. And would address from a cultural standpoint the hurry-sickness.
It ain't gonna happen. I came to that conclusion a couple years ago, consulting with the folks at the NASA/Goddard Institute for Space Studies at Columbia (while I was at Redefining Progress).
Anyone who argues at this point that there will be no or only minor effects in excavating billions of tons of carbon out of the earth's crust and putting it into the atmosphere, decisively changing the composition of the atmosphere, has their head up their tailpipe, huffing methane.
You're aware that many older folks are boasting these days, "I'm spending my children's inheritance."
peace
mish
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[permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Misha Gale-Sinex, 12/02/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?,
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