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["Jerome Osentowski" <jerome@crmpi.org>]

Ya, the pig shed, sounds like another place not to use strawbale.  jerome
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>From: "Kelly Finigan" <kfinigan@telus.net>
>To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [permaculture] corn burning and straw building
>Date: Sun, Nov 17, 2002, 11:48 PM
>

> Meg:
>
> pigs can tear a building apart.. a pig farmer around here built a strawbale
> barn with stucco. The pigs tend to "root" about with their snouts and
> demolished the stucco. Another pig farmer friend thinks a knee-high concrete
> wall inside would prevent the pigs from damaging the stucco. I don't know
> about the other animals, but my gut feel is a greenhouse with high humidity
> might begin to rot if made from strawbales...maybe somebody has seen a straw
> greenhouse?
>
> cheers,
> Kelly
>
> Kelly Finigan, M.Sc. P.Eng., Permaculture Designer
> Essential Elements Inc.
> 744 - 4 Street NW       Calgary, Alberta, Canada         T2N 1P2
> 1-403-283-7270           fax 283-9783     kfinigan@telus.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Meg Mullett" <meg@kcnet.com>
> To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 8:13 AM
> Subject: [permaculture] corn burning and straw building
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> My family and I moved to our little farm in NE Kansas 2 years ago.  We've
> got
>> 12.5 acres, a little 70 yr old house, 1 acre of vineyard, a small orchard,
> a
>> little woods and several acres of pasture.  We spent the first year mostly
> just
>> seeing what's here and putting in our vineyard. (I'm a winemaker)  The
> second we
>> started a large garden and got a couple pigs.  This coming year we wish to
> fence
>> more and add some more animals.  We're thinking about chickens (a few for
> eggs),
>> guinea hens (for bugs in the vineyard) and some meat goats (helping to
> clear
>> some brushy areas and for cash - we've got large hispanic and muslim
> populations
>> in Kansas City and we believe we've got a good market for them).
>>
>> As we grow our little farm each year, we are wishing to tread more lightly
> on
>> the planet.  And with a "dance with the one that brung ya" sort of
> attitude, we
>> are looking to use resources that are plentiful in our area. We are
> thinking
>> about building our animal shelters out of straw bale, and installing a
> corn
>> burning stove in the house for winter heat. We're using propane right now.
>>
>> I am wondering if any of you might share some of your experiences with
> either of
>> these things.  Have you used straw bales for animal enclosures?  Are there
> any
>> special considerations we should be taking or thinking about when doing
> this?
>> How do straw bale buildings hold up as animal enclosures?  Can they take a
>> beating by goat heads?  Might pigs leaning on them and scratching every
> day
>> cause some problems?   Do some animals like to eat the stucco/plaster?
> What
>> kind of measures might be required if you wanted to create a fairly high
>> humidity enclosure, - like a greenhouse, or a chicken coop?   What about
>> moveable enclosures on skids?  Would the weight of such a building be too
> great
>> to move about as you pasture the animals?  Do you think straw bale would
> work
>> for those sort of things?
>>
>> How about corn stoves?  Have any of you used one?  Do they really work as
> well
>> as advertised?  For those that aren't sure about what there are, here are
> a few
>> links:
>>
>> http://www.agriculture.com/buyersguide/sidebyside/sbs_cornstove.html
>> http://news.mpr.org/features/200101/31_galballye_cornstove-m/
>>
>>
>> I look forward to your thoughts.  Any tips or advice you might send would
> be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Meg
>> Spring Hill, KS
>>
>>
>>
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