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Re: [permaculture] Carbon Sinks / Fire Proof Forests
- From: "Kirby Fry" <peace@totalaccess.net>
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- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Carbon Sinks / Fire Proof Forests
- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 03:07:32 -0600
Hi Mike,
I just returned from a gathering where Starhawk
(activist / writer) spoke and their was quite an entourage of eco-activists
including a bunch of folks involved with tree sitting out west. "Salvage
cuts" of burned or high fire-risk forests are apparently increasing.
It's suspected arson is possibly being used to make the salvage cuts
necessary.
So apparently clearing and / or thinning is being
used as a tool to reduce risk of wildfire - no trees means no fuel for
fire, though, according to a research article I read, it's the secondary growth of cleared forests that is more prone to
wildfire than the primal forests. More so in the dryer interior than the
woodlands of Maine or our Gulf Coast.
I think timber products should primarily come from
those regions where trees grow quickly and are in a more humid climate less
prone to devastating wild-fire.
Our dryer forests (east of the Sierra Nevadas and
west of the Appalachians) need to be reestablished in a way that minimizes their
chances of burning and yet yields some degree of sustainable timber
products. These forests probably need to be tended to much the way German
foresters tend to the Black Forest.
The kind of restoration work I could get behind
would accommodate the human element as well. The human / wilderness
interface zone is a key area for combining permaculture with the
restoration of native flora and fauna. Just think, if our human /
wilderness interface zone was a fire resistant permaculture that transitioned
into primitive forest.
>> The Native Americans lived in a
robust landscape that was anything but endangered, so they could easily burn it
off as far as the eye could see <<
Their sense of manifest destiny. What I'd
like to ask the ancestors is how often did the land naturally
catch a'fire. A study up around the Great Lakes where lightning
strikes were high and naturally started fires were suspected of being
common and frequent actually showed that lightning strikes only resulted in a
region being burned every one to three hundred years.
>> They clear-cut this area with total
abandon, and in this particular climate it grows back fast
<<
Right, similar to here in Texas with our white and
yellow pine clear-cuts. The ground doesn't stay bare for long and as you
mentioned, a 30 year rest is pretty good for an "ag crop." Doesn't mean we
shouldn't be vigilant, however, and expect the most for and from these resources
which really belong to all of us despite our private land ethic.
There are also a few tricks to clear
cutting which can speed up the regenerative process and prevent erosion.
F'rinstance, leaving bands of trees on contour and cross wind for
reseeding, windrowing slash on contour and not burning it, and protecting
steep drainages by not logging them. All of these methods, of course, cost
extra time and money, and reduce profit.
>> A few years back when the
environmentalists came to Maine they had a fit-- all clear-cutting was bad in
their minds <<
And the pendulum swings. This kind of
polarization really seems to get in the way of a holistic solution. The
environmentalists don't trust the timber barrens when they say, "We're going to
salvage these trees for the over all health of the forest," and the barons don't
credit the environmentalists with having a credible opinion or grasp of the
situation. So both sides end up working from positions of extreme distrust
and disrespect.
>> So if you develop a pristine
landscape, are you going to let a transforming species like beaver (or in
Africa, elephants) take the place of man and turn it into something else?
<<
Wherever possible, certainly. Look at what we
can do to mobilize for war, look at what we did during the depression when the
CCC was hard at work to reclaim the dust bowl. The Russians and their
antelope are another good example. Rick, elephants might be a little
much for us red-necks here in Texas. ;^> We might like taking some
pot-shots at bison, though!
I'd like to know where the money is for private
initiatives to restore burned and high fire-risk forests.
Kirby Fry
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Fwd: [permaculture] Carbon Sinks / Fire Proof Forests,
Marimike6, 11/13/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Carbon Sinks / Fire Proof Forests, Rick Valley, 11/13/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Carbon Sinks / Fire Proof Forests,
Kirby Fry, 11/14/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Carbon Sinks / Fire Proof Forests, jeff, 11/14/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Carbon Sinks / Fire Proof Forests,
Rick Valley, 11/14/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Carbon Sinks / Fire Proof Forests / The Ghosts of Evolution, Keith Johnson, 11/15/2002
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