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- From: <permed@nor.com.au>
- To: "permaculture" <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: permaculture trademark alert
- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 01 08:36:53 -0000
>Bill has said that he hoped that others would create their own systems and
>not just parrot/steal his ideas. I can imagine that this may be a way to
>stop Permaculture from becoming dogma or institutionalized.
Yes, we were encouraged to develop our course curriculla covering the
essential subject areas, to develop specialist courses and to develop our
own ideas - the designers manual is full of systems and ideas invented by
bills students and their students etc. Now it seems innovative thought is
met with hostility.
It's only been the past few years where Bill has called the designers
manual 'THE curriculum' and now its claimed to be the only definition of
permaculture. To be a registered teacher with the institute you have to
teach the entire designers manual, apparently it doesn't matter how badly
you teach it, but if you send in a course outline containing all the
contents of the designers manual you should be right. This to my mind
smacks of dogma. If the institute were really concerned about the quality
of courses there would be a quite different process of assessment. Their
procedures are right out of step in terms of educational processes, both
mainstream and alternate.
Were the pc inst a democratic organisation with the school of graduates
(i.e. diploma holders) controlling and collectively agreeing to
protocols, core curricula subject areas, peer review etc it would be an
entirely different matter as there would be discussion and collective
input with these issues, and in a case like TM there would be
automatically a collective ownership and clearly defined right of use.
The instute has never been a demoncratic organisation and is fully
controlled by Bill & Lisa (I don't know if they've appointed another 3rd
director to replace Scott Pittman yet). The reality is that Bill will not
live forever, and I wish him a long life and good health, but he is well
into his 70's and when he returns to the earth who will be in control
then?
Robyn
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Re: permaculture trademark alert
, (continued)
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, storm, 07/11/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Scott Pittman, 07/11/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Loren Davidson, 07/11/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Greg, 07/11/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, EFMonaco, 07/11/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, J. Hobbs, 07/11/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Toby Hemenway, 07/11/2001
- Re: Permaculture Trademark Alert, lflondon, 07/12/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, EFMonaco, 07/12/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, German Poleo, 07/12/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, permed, 07/12/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Robert Jensen, 07/12/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Graham Burnett, 07/12/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Pacific Edge Permaculture + Media, 07/13/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Pacific Edge Permaculture + Media, 07/13/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Pacific Edge Permaculture + Media, 07/13/2001
- permaculture trademark alert, robyn, 07/13/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Pacific Edge Permaculture + Media, 07/13/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, permed, 07/13/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Santoyo & Associates, 07/13/2001
- Re: permaculture trademark alert, Lsmitholy, 07/13/2001
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