pcplantdb

[Chad Knepp <pyg@galatea.org>]

John Schinnerer writes:
 > Aloha,
 > 
 > I don't understand what this has to do with the pcplantdp project as it
 > now is emerging.  I assume Rich is talking about licensing PFAF for
 > commercial use.  Our project is open source.  Further clarification
 > appreciated...
 > 
 > cheers,
 > John S.

Exactly as John says.  The CC-BY-NC-SA is not compatible with
propriety data.  The PFAF dataset (at least some versions) is
currently licensed under the CC-BY-NC-SA.  The proprietary data in
question, I believe, is the PFAF images.  I have in the past suggested
that we donate money to the PFAF project for all their hard work and
encourage them (with no obligations) to release the images under a
copyleft license.  Unfortunately with the extremely limited amount of
funding we have I don't think this is the time to do that.

While on the topic of spending, Richard Morris writes:
 > <big snip>
 > 
 > I do feel it would be very good to try to arange a physical
 > meeting, where we could really thrash these issues out. This
 > would mean a fair bit spent on travel. There seems to be
 > such a large amount of stuff we have to sort out

I don't think that this is a good use of the limited funding we have.
Getting all of us together could easily eat up 25% of the funds
without, IMO, a corresponding 25% benefit to the project.

 > I don't have a always on internet connection so I'm not sure
 > if IM is for me (never used it so don't know what i'm talking about).
 > 
 > Some sort of chat system could be good so we could have a
 > two way conservation. (Does IM give us this?)

Yes there are a number of easy ways to set up two+ way conversations
on the 'net.  I actually do think the we can communicate addequately
and effectively completely with e-mail, but I know some people prefer
a little more.  

 > > So when are we fully funded?  When are we to officially start, as in,
 > > when do I start tracking hours?  Also what kinds of activities are
 > > billable?  I could use more info. about the business side of things as
 > > I'm not really sure what the norms are.
 > 
 > Good Q's, we need a budget, Jim might have something to say about this.
 > 
 > There was something discussed a while back, major budget areas are
 > 
 > 1) hardware - probably none

Agreed.

 > 2) software - probably none

Agreed.

 > 3) domain reg - maybe $50

Agreed, whatever it costs, but it's more like $12/year plus hosting
costs.

 > 4) admin costs - any overheads for bank account,
 >                      printing stationary
 >                      production of final report
 >                      probably small

Agreed more or less.

 > 5) books -  I like to get a copy of toby book, maybe a need
 >              for some technical books (XML in a nutshell,
 >              something on ZOPE).

I'm interested in expenditures that yield the most product and I'm not
sure about this one really adds up.

 > 6) travel cost - are we going to meet up, could be major
 >              expendature.

Like I said above.

 > 7) money to pfaf (posible in exchange for photos to help
 >      cover cost of slide scanner we bought recently of £200).

As above, I think this is a stage 2+ idea... and if HG really garners
the support of the PC community we are going to be swimming in photos.

 > 8) wages - the other big one.

To me, this seems like the area where the most input yields the most
output.

 > <snip>

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Chad Knepp
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