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From: Jackie <jakuehn@verizon.net>
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Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:14:17 -0500

We have room for more articles for the spring Pomona: short or long,
successes or failures--we can benefit from all of them. Send them to Rob
Henkel, myinnerear@gmail.com

Thanks so much!

Jackie
Jacquelyn A. Kuehn

pennsacreskitchen.net
wmugradio.org

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> 1. Fruit & nut club interest group--Durham NC (Jackie)
> 2. tapping trees other than maple (Mark Lee)
> 3. John Parkinson on nurserymen (dwoodard@becon.org)
> 4. Re: tapping trees other than maple (mIEKAL aND)
> 5. Re: John Parkinson on nurserymen (mIEKAL aND)
> 6. Grafting Knife Recommendation (Peter Chrisbacher)
> 7. Re: Grafting Knife Recommendation (Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett)
> 8. Re: Grafting Knife Recommendation (Little John)
> 9. Re: Grafting Knife Recommendation (Dr. Chiranjit Parmar)
> 10. Grafting Knife Recommendation (Jwlehman@aol.com)
> 11. Re: tapping trees other than maple (David Consolvo)
> 12. Re: Grafting Knife Recommendation (Scott Smith)
> 13. Re: Grafting Knife Recommendation (Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett)
> 14. Re: Grafting Knife Recommendation (Lucky Pittman)
> 15. Rangpur limes? (Naomi Counides)
> 16. Re: Grafting Knife Recommendation (Idell Weydemeyer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:58:59 -0500
> From: Jackie <jakuehn@verizon.net>
> Subject: [nafex] Fruit & nut club interest group--Durham NC
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> Please, please, if you go, send in a little write-up for Pomona!
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> Thanks.
> Jacquelyn A. Kuehn
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>> 1. Fruit and nut club interest group- Durham NC tonight!
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>> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:54:30 -0500
>> From: Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
>> Subject: [nafex] Fruit and nut club interest group- Durham NC tonight!
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>> Sorry for the late notice folks, I just learned of this:
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>> *Fruit and Nut Club Interest Meeting-January 30th
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>> Who: All Triangle area fruit and nut nuts! Especially anyone interested
>> in grafting, propagating, and otherwise growing fruit trees!
>> What: A gathering to discuss starting a fruit and nut club for our region
>> When: Wednesday January 30th from 7 to 9 p.m.
>> Where: ECOhub, 2210 E. Pettigrew ST Durham (this is a big warehouse and
>> not super easy to find in the dark, so be sure to get good directions
>> before you leave)
>> Why: Connect with folks who have been growing fruit trees in our region
>> for decades....Preserve unique fruit genetics from our area....Share
>> regional fruit knowledge and skills...Meet other folks excited about
>> growing...Grow many tons of fruit together!....And of course to have fun!
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:47:26 -0800
> From: Mark Lee <mark.lee.phd@gmail.com>
> Subject: [nafex] tapping trees other than maple
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> I don't have a sugar maple, but this year I have plans for tapping some of
> my trees for their sap. Something to do while waiting for the orchard to
> wake up.
> I have been researching alternatives to sugar maple...
> English Walnut - I have read that walnut trees can be tapped, and the sap
> can be boiled down into a syrup. It takes about 2 gallons to make a cup of
> syrup. That is a sap:syrup ratio of 32:1. You could also drink the sap
> directly or ferment it in the style of birch beer. Here is a link to a
> video tapping a related species. Place one tap on the sunny side of the
> tree for trees up to 1 foot diameter, 2 taps for larger trees.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-whVH8QwzFo
> Silver birch - These trees are weeds that spring up around my yard. Here is
> a three part video that demonstrates how to tap a birch tree.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0rX_uKE3SU - drilling the hole, placing the
> tap and bucket
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW5k48i-0LM - filling a bottle
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY5Noz5Gdzw - removing the tap, plugging the
> hole
> Alternative maple trees - This video has some comments about Euell Gibbons
> sampling the various maple species:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXSsrGZg6ps
> "Euell Gibbons, in his book 'Stalking the Good Life' rated syrups produced
> by different species of Maple tree by his personal taste. Acer saccharum,
> Acer nigrum (Sugar Maples) came in first for taste. In second place for
> taste was Acer plataneides (Norway Maple). In third place was Acer negundo
> (Common Box Elder). In fourth place was the Acer rubrum (Red Maple, or
> Swamp Maple). In last place is Acer saccarinum (Silver Maple). Silver Maple
> syrup tastes almost identical to Corn Syrup. Box Elder syrup tastes more
> like traditional Maple syrup, but with a bit of a tang taste to it. I may
> have over-cooked the Box Elder syrup just a touch, giving it a carmelized
> candy flavor that the Silver Maple syrup didn't have. Boiling down a liter
> of Silver Maple sap gives about 1.5 ounces of syrup. Boiling down a liter
> of Box Elder sap gives about .75 ounces of syrup. The Silver Maple sap
> makes about twice as much syrup per liter as does the Box Elder sap .The
> Box Elder and the Silver Maple, like all Maple trees, can easily be
> identified by their helicopter seeds. The Silver Maples out back here of
> the house have shed all their helicopters over the winter, but the Box
> Elders still have clusters of helicopter seeds that haven't fallen yet. It
> is best to boil the sap down in shallow pans under low heat. Deep pots
> don't work as well. 40 gallons of sap will typically make about a gallon of
> syrup. Unless you honestly want to steam the wall paper off your walls,
> only a pint or so of Maple syrup should be made over a kitchen stove.
> Boiling off 39 gallons of water in your house will make the sheet rock
> soggy."
> Sycamore - This video is from England. I like this guy's accent.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S2ij1c8VQI
> He is in his best survivalist mode while a church bell rings in the
> background and his cell phone rings in his pocket. Funny.
> Grape - Not a tree, but...
> http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/vb/archive/index.php/t-24711.html
> "We also used to cut Wild grape vines in the spring (for making wreaths),
> they have a lot of sap. I cut some that were flowing with sap, harvested
> the sap and boiled it down. It had a great sweet grapey flavor."
> -Mark,Seattle
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:45:21 -0500
> From: <dwoodard@becon.org>
> Subject: [nafex] John Parkinson on nurserymen
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> c. 1629, quoted in Hogg's "Fruit Manual."
>
> "Scarce one in twentie of our Nurseriemen doe sell the right,
> but give one for another: for it is an inherent qualitie almost
> hereditarie with most of them to sell to any man an ordinary
> fruit for whatsoever rare fruit he shall ask for: so little are
> they to be trusted."
>
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:06:46 -0600
> From: mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] tapping trees other than maple
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> Since I'm in an endless boxelder eradication project, the last few
> years I've just cut whole limbs off box elders during syrup season and
> hung a bucket from the remaining stump. Later in the year I cut the
> rest of the tree down.
>
> ~mIEKAL
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Mark Lee <mark.lee.phd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't have a sugar maple, but this year I have plans for tapping some of
>> my trees for their sap. Something to do while waiting for the orchard to
>> wake up.
>> I have been researching alternatives to sugar maple...
>> English Walnut - I have read that walnut trees can be tapped, and the sap
>> can be boiled down into a syrup. It takes about 2 gallons to make a cup of
>> syrup. That is a sap:syrup ratio of 32:1. You could also drink the sap
>> directly or ferment it in the style of birch beer. Here is a link to a
>> video tapping a related species. Place one tap on the sunny side of the
>> tree for trees up to 1 foot diameter, 2 taps for larger trees.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-whVH8QwzFo
>> Silver birch - These trees are weeds that spring up around my yard. Here is
>> a three part video that demonstrates how to tap a birch tree.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0rX_uKE3SU - drilling the hole, placing the
>> tap and bucket
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW5k48i-0LM - filling a bottle
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY5Noz5Gdzw - removing the tap, plugging the
>> hole
>> Alternative maple trees - This video has some comments about Euell Gibbons
>> sampling the various maple species:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXSsrGZg6ps
>> "Euell Gibbons, in his book 'Stalking the Good Life' rated syrups produced
>> by different species of Maple tree by his personal taste. Acer saccharum,
>> Acer nigrum (Sugar Maples) came in first for taste. In second place for
>> taste was Acer plataneides (Norway Maple). In third place was Acer negundo
>> (Common Box Elder). In fourth place was the Acer rubrum (Red Maple, or
>> Swamp Maple). In last place is Acer saccarinum (Silver Maple). Silver Maple
>> syrup tastes almost identical to Corn Syrup. Box Elder syrup tastes more
>> like traditional Maple syrup, but with a bit of a tang taste to it. I may
>> have over-cooked the Box Elder syrup just a touch, giving it a carmelized
>> candy flavor that the Silver Maple syrup didn't have. Boiling down a liter
>> of Silver Maple sap gives about 1.5 ounces of syrup. Boiling down a liter
>> of Box Elder sap gives about .75 ounces of syrup. The Silver Maple sap
>> makes about twice as much syrup per liter as does the Box Elder sap .The
>> Box Elder and the Silver Maple, like all Maple trees, can easily be
>> identified by their helicopter seeds. The Silver Maples out back here of
>> the house have shed all their helicopters over the winter, but the Box
>> Elders still have clusters of helicopter seeds that haven't fallen yet. It
>> is best to boil the sap down in shallow pans under low heat. Deep pots
>> don't work as well. 40 gallons of sap will typically make about a gallon of
>> syrup. Unless you honestly want to steam the wall paper off your walls,
>> only a pint or so of Maple syrup should be made over a kitchen stove.
>> Boiling off 39 gallons of water in your house will make the sheet rock
>> soggy."
>> Sycamore - This video is from England. I like this guy's accent.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S2ij1c8VQI
>> He is in his best survivalist mode while a church bell rings in the
>> background and his cell phone rings in his pocket. Funny.
>> Grape - Not a tree, but...
>> http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/vb/archive/index.php/t-24711.html
>> "We also used to cut Wild grape vines in the spring (for making wreaths),
>> they have a lot of sap. I cut some that were flowing with sap, harvested
>> the sap and boiled it down. It had a great sweet grapey flavor."
>> -Mark,Seattle
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:16:49 -0600
> From: mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] John Parkinson on nurserymen
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> I would hope at least the percentage has improved slightly...
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:45 PM, <dwoodard@becon.org> wrote:
>> c. 1629, quoted in Hogg's "Fruit Manual."
>>
>> "Scarce one in twentie of our Nurseriemen doe sell the right,
>> but give one for another: for it is an inherent qualitie almost
>> hereditarie with most of them to sell to any man an ordinary
>> fruit for whatsoever rare fruit he shall ask for: so little are
>> they to be trusted."
>>
>> Doug Woodard
>> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:19:31 -0500
> From: Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com>
> Subject: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> This spring I plan to try my hand at grafting some hickory and walnut
> seedlings. My cheap-o fluorescent orange "grafting" knife works reasonably
> well after sharpening for a few apple grafts each spring, but I'm thinking
> I should upgrade to "the real thing" before attempting nut trees.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand/model? I've been
> impressed by every victorinox knife I've used, but thought I'd put it out
> to this group before diving in on a purchase.
>
> Incidentally, I plan on modifying John Brittain's bench grafting method to
> suit my needs, including an idea I have for building a custom (small-scale)
> graft heater to callous the grafts under heat for two weeks before moving
> outside.
>
> Thanks all -
>
> Pete Chrisbacher
> 6b/7a southeastern PA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 03:11:21 GMT
> From: "Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett" <bluestem_farm@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> I have a Victorinox grafting knife, and despite it being right handed and
> me being left handed we get along fine. I've only done apple and pear,
> though, never the tough stuff like the nuts.
> Muffy Barrett
> Southern Wisconsin
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
>
> This spring I plan to try my hand at grafting some hickory and walnut
> seedlings. My cheap-o fluorescent orange "grafting" knife works reasonably
> well after sharpening for a few apple grafts each spring, but I'm thinking
> I should upgrade to "the real thing" before attempting nut trees.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand/model? I've been
> impressed by every victorinox knife I've used, but thought I'd put it out
> to this group before diving in on a purchase.
>
>
> Thanks all -
>
> Pete Chrisbacher
> 6b/7a southeastern PA
> __________________
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:17:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: Little John <moonwise_herbs@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> I've found that the best knife is a carpenters razor knife/ box cutter. A
> new blade can be put in and its sharp every time. As for grafting nuts, its
> all about the graft. The 4 flap banana graft is what I've had the most
> success with. You can see a video here....
> ?http://youtu.be/CC7ZasquCK4
>
> Good Luck,
> Little John
> Sheboygan, WI
>
>
> "A weed is just a plant growing in the wrong place" -Luther Burbank
>
> --- On Thu, 1/31/13, Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett <bluestem_farm@juno.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett <bluestem_farm@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 9:11 PM
>
> I have a Victorinox grafting knife, and despite it being right handed and
> me being left handed we get along fine.? I've only done apple and pear,
> though, never the tough stuff like the nuts.
> Muffy Barrett
> Southern Wisconsin
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
>
> This spring I plan to try my hand at grafting some hickory and walnut
> seedlings. My cheap-o fluorescent orange "grafting" knife works reasonably
> well after sharpening for a few apple grafts each spring, but I'm thinking
> I should upgrade to "the real thing" before attempting nut trees.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand/model?? I've been
> impressed by every victorinox knife I've used, but thought I'd put it out
> to this group before diving in on a purchase.
>
>
> Thanks all -
>
> Pete Chrisbacher
> 6b/7a southeastern PA
> __________________
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> Woman is 53 But Looks 25
> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/510b32bcecacc32bc7eddst04duc
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:54:58 +0530
> From: "Dr. Chiranjit Parmar" <parmarch_mnd@dataone.in>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> Interesting. I did not know that Victorinox grafting knives too. How much
> does it cost? Here in India we get excellent budding/grafting knives for
> less than a dollar.
>
> Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
> www.fruitipedia.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 8:41 AM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
>
> I have a Victorinox grafting knife, and despite it being right handed and
> me
> being left handed we get along fine. I've only done apple and pear,
> though,
> never the tough stuff like the nuts.
> Muffy Barrett
> Southern Wisconsin
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
>
> This spring I plan to try my hand at grafting some hickory and walnut
> seedlings. My cheap-o fluorescent orange "grafting" knife works reasonably
> well after sharpening for a few apple grafts each spring, but I'm thinking
> I should upgrade to "the real thing" before attempting nut trees.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand/model? I've been
> impressed by every victorinox knife I've used, but thought I'd put it out
> to this group before diving in on a purchase.
>
>
> Thanks all -
>
> Pete Chrisbacher
> 6b/7a southeastern PA
> __________________
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> Woman is 53 But Looks 25
> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/510b32bcecacc32bc7eddst04duc
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:38:49 -0500 (EST)
> From: Jwlehman@aol.com
> Subject: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> In a message dated 1/31/2013 10:17:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> moonwise_herbs@sbcglobal.net writes:
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>> I've found that the best knife is a carpenters razor knife/ box cutter. A
>> new blade can be put in and its sharp every time. As for grafting nuts,
>> its all about the graft. The 4 flap banana graft is what I've had the most
>> success with. You can see a video here....
>>
>
> I agree with Little John 100%.
>
> Grafting knifes are expensive, they need be sharpened and honed frequently.
> I've owned grafting knifes in the past. Have used only carpenter knives for
> the past 20 years for soft wood as well as hard wood such as Carya. When
> the blade gets dull simply replace it. Some of the old time grafters (maybe
> some today) would take the honing stones in the field with them to keep the
> blades sharp. Simply reverse then replace the blade.
>
> Don't lose time and waste money on a grafting knife. Successful grafting is
> all about your skill, timing and graft method, not the knife. Yes, the four
> flap is a good hardwood method.
>
> Jerry
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:42:28 -0500
> From: "David Consolvo" <fruitopia@firstva.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] tapping trees other than maple
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> Thanks for all the info. Being in central Virginia, I'll be starting
> tapping tomorrow.
> Flow is early and quite inconsistent this far south, though perhaps all
> tappers deal
> with inconsistency.
>
> Black walnut trees produce a decent-tasting syrup, though they are sparer
> and even
> more inconsistent with sap production. I also tap a wild maple (silver?),
> and cannot
> tell any taste difference from my sugar maple; both syrups are wonderful.
>
> Kiwi vines produce a torrent of sap, like grape vines, but I never got as
> far as tasting
> the syrup. The boiling sap in a closed house made me feel sick for hours.
>
> ~David Consolvo
> Hungrytown, Virginia
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:07:12 -0500
> From: Scott Smith <scott@cs.jhu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> I am impressed with anyone that can get good results with a box cutter. I
> tried and could not make a straight cut. The grafting knife has a beveled
> edge, completely flat on the side down, which makes it easy to make
> straight cuts.
>
> Cost-wise its about the same, the cheaper Victorinox knives are $10-$15 and
> you don't have to buy replacement blades.
>
> Scott
>
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Jwlehman@aol.com wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 1/31/2013 10:17:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> moonwise_herbs@sbcglobal.net writes:
>>
>>> I've found that the best knife is a carpenters razor knife/ box cutter. A
>>> new blade can be put in and its sharp every time. As for grafting nuts,
>>> its all about the graft. The 4 flap banana graft is what I've had the
>>> most
>>> success with. You can see a video here....
>>>
>>
>> I agree with Little John 100%.
>>
>> Grafting knifes are expensive, they need be sharpened and honed
>> frequently.
>> I've owned grafting knifes in the past. Have used only carpenter knives
>> for
>> the past 20 years for soft wood as well as hard wood such as Carya. When
>> the blade gets dull simply replace it. Some of the old time grafters
>> (maybe
>> some today) would take the honing stones in the field with them to keep
>> the
>> blades sharp. Simply reverse then replace the blade.
>>
>> Don't lose time and waste money on a grafting knife. Successful grafting
>> is
>> all about your skill, timing and graft method, not the knife. Yes, the
>> four
>> flap is a good hardwood method.
>>
>> Jerry
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:30:47 GMT
> From: "Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett" <bluestem_farm@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> Here in the US I doubt that you could find anything for a dollar; I paid
> $11 for mine a few years back. I think that they are up to 12-15 now,
> depending on where you get it. It's called the "florist" knife, and it
> does not have one of those bark lifters that budding knives have.
> Muffy Barrett
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Dr. Chiranjit Parmar" <
> Interesting. I did not know that Victorinox grafting knives too. How much
> does it cost? Here in India we get excellent budding/grafting knives for
> less than a dollar.
>
> Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:46:00 -0600
> From: "Lucky Pittman" <lpittman@murraystate.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> Same here, Scott.
> I'd never tried a box cutter, but the local Extension horticulture agent
> asked me to lead a grafting class, and I told him, based on recommendations
> I'd seen, that he could just buy some boxcutters at the local big box store
> for the 'Master Gardeners' class. Never again. Even on soft stuff, like
> apple/pear , I couldn't make a straight, flat cut - forget about the
> beginners being able to come close to getting pieces that would come
> anywhere close to fitting together with any hopes of a successful 'take'.
> Maybe they work OK for some folks - but I'll stick to my grafting knife.
>
> Lucky
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Smith
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 8:07 AM
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> I am impressed with anyone that can get good results with a box cutter. I
> tried and could not make a straight cut. The grafting knife has a beveled
> edge, completely flat on the side down, which makes it easy to make straight
> cuts.
>
> Cost-wise its about the same, the cheaper Victorinox knives are $10-$15 and
> you don't have to buy replacement blades.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:07:04 -0700
> From: "Naomi Counides" <naomi@oznayim.us>
> Subject: [nafex] Rangpur limes?
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Is anyone growing these. I would love to buy some fruit.
>
> Naomi (Idaho)
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:46:47 -0800
> From: "Idell Weydemeyer" <iwgarden@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
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> A stiff and short bladed kitchen knife works fine for much of grafting. It
> doesn't have the problem of being so sharp as box cutters so not so much
> chance of cutting yourself badly.
>
>
> Idell
>
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lucky Pittman
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 6:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
>
> Same here, Scott.
> I'd never tried a box cutter, but the local Extension horticulture agent
> asked me to lead a grafting class, and I told him, based on recommendations
> I'd seen, that he could just buy some boxcutters at the local big box store
> for the 'Master Gardeners' class. Never again. Even on soft stuff, like
> apple/pear , I couldn't make a straight, flat cut - forget about the
> beginners being able to come close to getting pieces that would come
> anywhere close to fitting together with any hopes of a successful 'take'.
> Maybe they work OK for some folks - but I'll stick to my grafting knife.
>
> Lucky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Smith
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 8:07 AM
> To: nafex mailing list at ibiblio
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Grafting Knife Recommendation
>
> I am impressed with anyone that can get good results with a box cutter. I
> tried and could not make a straight cut. The grafting knife has a beveled
> edge, completely flat on the side down, which makes it easy to make straight
> cuts.
>
> Cost-wise its about the same, the cheaper Victorinox knives are $10-$15 and
> you don't have to buy replacement blades.
>
> Scott
>
>
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