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[rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>]

I have long promoted mulberries as a crop of interest in my talks. I feel 
that it would be perfect for farmers markets that delever fresh to consumer 
produce. I like to think I had some influence in the some of the local 
vendors offering them this past year (sorry my ego is big today). So far, 
they have been popular.  As Dr. Parmar said, large scale commercial 
production would have its challenges.  I really feel we have not even 
scratched the surface for varieties here in the states. There are a number of 
wild ones out there with wonderful taste (both black and white) for fresh, 
dried and processed. Cultivation practices need to be worked out so it is 
practical for people to plant, but that is what we are here for...right?   

Though I agree that the Mediterranean Black Persian is a great fruit with a 
distinctive flavor, there other ones that can have that same potential that 
can grow in colder climates. 

If I had the space, I would love to be part of an interest group on these 
trees. There are a group of us that do have a few trees,  we just need to 
start communication with each other on a regular bases.

call me the over optimistic :)

Robert


 
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I once dried mulberries from a tree in our neighborhood with white fruit.
Fresh, the fruit was actually not that interesting.  Dried it was brown of
course, but with a shiny sugar coating, quite good. Some dark fruit that had
tasted much better straight from the tree, was not much when it got dried.
Naomi 


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I have had trouble growing Morus nigra in my area.  I dont think it is just 
the cold hardiness. A.J Bullard feels that it there is a disease that effects 
them here in the east.

Also, I should not when I mentioned Black and White mulberries in the 
previous post, I just meant the color, not specie distinctions. I noticed the 
White colored ones tend to just have mind sweet taste and the black and red 
colored ones will have more acid in them...but that just my experience


 
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California Rare Fruit Growers 
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In a message dated 1/13/2013 11:49:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
leeareich@gmail.com writes:

> Black mulberry species (Morus nigra) will not grow in the midwest, only 
> in Mediterranean climates and perhaps the southeast. This is the best 
> tasting of the mulberries, fresh at least.    

Lee is correct. Morus nigra, Black Mulberry is native to Asia and is not 
winter hardy enough to survive the Midwest winters.  What is native to this 
area is Red Mulberry, Morus rubra which is commonly but incorrectly called 
Black Mulberry. 

I stand corrected, my previous writtings of using black mulberry actually 
are Morus rubra, Red mulberry and sometimes called American Mulberry.

Thanks Lee.

Jerry  
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Anyone know why it's not permitted for agricultural use in Canada?


-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
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On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:40 PM, david.maxwell@dal.ca wrote:

> Not so easy.  Richters, (and other garden supply places) sell neem
> as a leaf shine, in small
> bottles.  Peter needs several liters for his purposes.  But one can
> order it from the States,
> and it comes in with no problem as long as it is not listed as for
> agricultural use. (If it is being
> used for anything else - as a shampoo, herbal tonic, even powering
> one's diesel VW - it is
> outside the purview of PMRA, and Canada Custome pays it no heed,
> (except occasionally
> looking for GST and/or duties))