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["Charles Rhora" <rhoras@nuttrees.com>]

I agree with Mr. Hinds, in prospective and quotes,  not only to apple trees,
but to any kind of tree, whether it be for food production or ornamental in
type.  My experience with growing trees from seeds spans over more than 40
plus years.  I also had belonged to the California Rare Fruit Growers
Association for many years, but due to water damage, loss most of my
articles, including years books.  I only have the book they put out on paw
paw's in my collection.  I would be interested in someone who is presently a
member of this organization to try and obtain a copy of the same article
that Mr. Hinds mentioned.
I am in the nursery business, and have orchards of edible nut pine trees,
deciduous edible nut trees, minor fruits, and rare and unusual trees, as
well as accessories. 
My climatic zone is 4 (temperatures down to -35 degrees F.) in the winter.

Charles Rhora,
Rhora's Nut Farm & Nursery.

www.nuttrees.com


-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of John McCuan
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 1:38 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [nafex] Seedling trees


I find this topic very interesting.  How would I find more information on
the benefits of seedling trees?

Intuitively, it makes sense to me - 

Melinda McCuan



Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Fwd: Johny A. (Douglas Hinds)


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Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:46:48 -0600
From: Douglas Hinds <cedecor@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [nafex] Fwd: Johny A.
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Cc: Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com>
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On 11/11/2012 10:29 AM, Alan Haigh wrote:
> From: Alan Haigh<alandhaigh@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM
> Subject: Johny A.
> To:nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org
>
>> >That isn't to take away from Johnny. He was an apple authority and 
>> >went
>> around the country helping folks and propagated popular varieties by
grafting.
> Actually, according to Pollan's book, Johny thought grafting was 
> devil's work and that God wanted trees to grow just as they were from
seed.
God and Johnny aren't the only ones.  Count me in on that two.

How important is it to me?  I left the USA due to the relative dearth of
fruit from seedling trees there in 1974 and I still don't eat fruit from
trees that _aren't_  on their own roots.  In fact, fruit from seedling trees
is the principle staple food of my diet and at 70, I have not yet begun to
go downhill.

An article explaining the reasons why was published in the *1973 California
Rare Fruit Growers Yearbook* (the year before I left).  Steve Diver asked
for for a copy and I e-mailed it to him about 12 years ago. (If Steve is on
nafex I'd appreciate being sent a copy, since I don't have it on hand at
this time.  And if not, Lawrence - I assume you have his current contact
data, and I hope you can do me the favor of sending this on to him).

Grafting is unnecessary and creates more problems than it solves. 
Logically, those subscribing to organic, biological, alternative,
sustainable and ecological (as well as permaculture and biodynamic)
agriculture would recognize the importance of respecting and maintaining the
integrity of the individual organism as a fundamental and unalterable
principle, yet no movement (that I'm aware of) has taken up the cause and I
think I (along with other sympathetic individuals and
groups) need to do something about that.  (It's on the agenda we've
established with CUCBA, our local Agricultural, Biological, Environmental
and Animal Sciences Faculty) <www.cucba.udg.mx> and as time and funding
permit, we will be moving ahead with it.

That's all for now, but I can elaborate further if this post generates any
interest to that effect.

Douglas Hinds,

Director General
Centro para el Desarrollo Comunitario y Rural, A.C.

Coordinator
Alianza para la Responsibilidad Ecologica y Social en el Desarrollo (CUCBA,
FEPRJ, CNC Jalisco, CeDeCoR A.C.)

Chair
Organic Pineapple Working Group
International Society for Horticultural Science

Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico



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