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[Steve <sdw12986@aol.com>]

When I bought the Bali Cherry from Bill Mackentley (St Lawrence 
Nurseries) I didn't know that it was the same as Evans. I found that out 
years later. I did know back then that he imported the cultivar from an 
original source in Canada. He named it after his younger daughter. (He 
named a pear after his older daughter, Nova.)
Personally, I don't think he should have renamed it if it was already 
being called Evans. Maybe no one else was selling it on the US side of 
the border back then and he was trying to coin a new name for it here. 
That's just a guess, I don't know.

Steve


On 7/24/2011 4:09 PM, Ernest Plutko wrote:
> Maybe he took the tissue from an Evans cherry tree which came from
> Canada.  There seems to be some confusion over this cherry.
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: sdw12986@aol.com
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] evans-bali cherry
> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:50:32 -0400
>
> > Actually, it's the other way around. The name Bali came from Bill
> > Mackentley at St Lawrence Nurseries. He sold them only as tissue
> > cultured trees. I talked him into selling me one the year before they
> >
> > were big enough to list in his catalog. I watched Bill dig it up
> > myself
> > and we walked back to the building with him cupping the roots in his
> > hands until he could wrap it properly.
> > My tree grew well. When it got big enough to flower I found that most
> > of
> > the flower buds were dead every spring. I never got more than a hand
> > full of cherries a year. Also it would put out a foot (more or less)
> > of
> > new growth full of new buds. In the spring all the buds would be dead
> >
> > except the terminal buds and a few scattered flower buds. Lots of
> > long
> > skinny branches with new growth on the tips only. One August, the
> > leaved
> > turned yellow and fell a good month early. It was dead. This is
> > EXACTLY
> > how a previous North Star cherry behaved, dying a couple of years
> > before
> > I planted the Bali. Both died after the trunk was about 4 inches in
> > diameter.
> > I sometimes wonder if the North Star left some disease in the soil
> > and
> > maybe I should try a Bali again in a different location.
> > Mine never produced a single sucker. I would have assumed that the
> > ones
> > that suckered were NOT own rooted. Maybe not.
> >
> > Steve..... cold zone 4 in the central Adirondacks
> >
> >
> > On 7/24/2011 12:51 PM, Ernest Plutko wrote:
> > > Are the suckers from the grafted root?  I understand Bali is
> > grafted
> > > and Evans are the original non-grafted trees.  I never had a
> > sucker.
> > > Maybe I can buy a few sucker from you?  The cherries are very good
> > > eating.
> > >
> > > ---- Original Message ----
> > > From: qazingulaza@gmail.com
> > > To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] evans-bali cherry
> > > Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:44:40 -0500
> > >
> > > > The own rooted Balis will sucker profusely, but maybe you want
> > that.
> > > > I planted out 75 suckers from 5 six year old trees last year.
> > Just
> > > > looked a couple days ago&   there is at least that many suckers
> > > > again...
> > > >
> > > > ~mIEKAL
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Ernest Plutko
> > > > <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>   wrote:
> > > > > Planted five Bali cherry trees last year.  Only one made it
> > through
> > > > > the winter.  I picked a cup of cherries off it today.  I'll try
> > to
> > > > > sprout the seed and plant on own root.  Should be more hardy then
> > > > on
> > > > > the Evans-Bali grafted trees.  I read the Bali grafted cherries
> > are
> > > > > not really hardy in cold winters.
> > > > >
> > > > > Zone 2 Minnesota
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