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  • From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] evans-bali cherry
  • Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:08:22 -0400

Ernest, Bill Mackentley makes it pretty clear in his catalogue listing

http://www.sln.potsdam.ny.us

that "Bali" is Evans.

He also states that his Bali trees as sold are considerably smaller than his other "pie cherries," which sounds to me as if they are grown from tissue cultured plants while his others are grafted.

To Steve:

Articles which can be found on the internet state that Evans/Bali does best on the Canadian Prairies on soil which is "not too fertile" and there are suggestions that on rich moist soil it may not be as cold-hardy. If you are interested, search on "Evans cherry."

There are also statements that many attempts have been made to grow seedlings of Evans and that they are generally inferior in both quality and cold-hardiness. The reason that Evans was only grown from suckers until tissue culture was commercialized is apparently that there was no conveniently available rootstock that was hardy enough and reliably compatible.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



On 7/24/2011 4:09 PM, Ernest Plutko wrote:
Maybe he took the tissue from an Evans cherry tree which came from
Canada. There seems to be some confusion over this cherry.

---- Original Message ----
From: sdw12986@aol.com
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] evans-bali cherry
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:50:32 -0400

Actually, it's the other way around. The name Bali came from Bill
Mackentley at St Lawrence Nurseries. He sold them only as tissue
cultured trees. I talked him into selling me one the year before they

were big enough to list in his catalog. I watched Bill dig it up
myself
and we walked back to the building with him cupping the roots in his
hands until he could wrap it properly.
My tree grew well. When it got big enough to flower I found that most
of
the flower buds were dead every spring. I never got more than a hand
full of cherries a year. Also it would put out a foot (more or less)
of
new growth full of new buds. In the spring all the buds would be dead

except the terminal buds and a few scattered flower buds. Lots of
long
skinny branches with new growth on the tips only. One August, the
leaved
turned yellow and fell a good month early. It was dead. This is
EXACTLY
how a previous North Star cherry behaved, dying a couple of years
before
I planted the Bali. Both died after the trunk was about 4 inches in
diameter.
I sometimes wonder if the North Star left some disease in the soil
and
maybe I should try a Bali again in a different location.
Mine never produced a single sucker. I would have assumed that the
ones
that suckered were NOT own rooted. Maybe not.

Steve..... cold zone 4 in the central Adirondacks


On 7/24/2011 12:51 PM, Ernest Plutko wrote:
Are the suckers from the grafted root? I understand Bali is
grafted
and Evans are the original non-grafted trees. I never had a
sucker.
Maybe I can buy a few sucker from you? The cherries are very good
eating.

[snip]




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