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["Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett" <bluestem_farm@juno.com>]

I bought one of the inexpensive one, and it didn't work well.  Of course I 
often (not always) am trying to graft small diameter scions or stocks.  I 
suspect that you would need to get one of the expensive machines and have 
uniform sized stocks and scions to get them to work well. Muffy 
BarrettSouthern Wisconsin

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There has been some discussion of late among members of Midfex as
to the relative merits of using a grafting tool in place of a knife.

I tried to search Nafex by googling and also did some spot checking
on the archives for mention of the use of this tool, but could find
nothing.  Either I missed it, or Nafex people are just not interested
in these tools.

Midfex teaches grafting with a knife and we occasionally get some
injuries with the beginners.  Some members are pushing for these tools
as an alternative.  I have never used one, but hear they have 
limitations, especially on smaller size wood.  I have also seen
discussion sites where people say they don't work.  I have heard that
commercial orchards and some mail order nurseries use them, but is this
a tool that would work well for the backyard orchardist?

              Sherwin Dubren
              Morton Grove, IL
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Lst year I think it was there was some talk on the list  about growing 
rhubarb for wine.  Steve H. (I think) mentionned something about having some 
rhubarb that was seemingly named for it... I didn't pay close attention, but 
it came back to me recently.  I checked a fun book out of the library by 
William Woys Weaver called "100 Vegetables and where they came from", and one 
of those vegetables is called Early Champagne Rhubarb.  He describes it as 
gooseberry-flavored, green stemmed, extremely hardy, and going dormant in 
midsummer only to give him a second crop in the fall.  He also suggests a 
recipe for champagne:  cook the rhubarb with spring water, mix half and half 
with white currant juice, add sugar, and ferment.   "Once it clarifies, 
bottle up with a raisin or two, and cork down tight.  You will soon have 
champagne as light and frisky as Veuve Cliquot".  I thought someone out there 
might be interested. Muffy BarrettSC Wisconsin, where the rhubarb is just 
visible at the surface but there is still frozen ground in a few places.
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I was the one that started that thread.  This is very interesting but
I haven't run into this variety in any catalogue.  Anyone know where
to get it?  I'm putting in patches of Valentine, McDonald, Caewood,
Canada Red & Victoria this year as well as starting Glaskins Perpetual
from seed.  Would love to locate Champagne.

~mIEKAL


On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett
<bluestem_farm@juno.com> wrote:
> Lst year I think it was there was some talk on the list  about growing 
> rhubarb for wine.  Steve H. (I think) mentionned something about having 
> some rhubarb that was seemingly named for it... I didn't pay close 
> attention, but it came back to me recently.  I checked a fun book out of 
> the library by William Woys Weaver called "100 Vegetables and where they 
> came from", and one of those vegetables is called Early Champagne Rhubarb.  
> He describes it as gooseberry-flavored, green stemmed, extremely hardy, and 
> going dormant in midsummer only to give him a second crop in the fall.  He 
> also suggests a recipe for champagne:  cook the rhubarb with spring water, 
> mix half and half with white currant juice, add sugar, and ferment.   "Once 
> it clarifies, bottle up with a raisin or two, and cork down tight.  You 
> will soon have champagne as light and frisky as Veuve Cliquot".  I thought 
> someone out there might be interested. Muffy BarrettSC Wisconsin, where the 
> rhubarb is just visible at the su
>  rface but there is still frozen ground in a few places.
> _____________________________________________