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[Steven Covacci <filtertitle@aol.com>]

Hi Mr. Lehman,

Thank you very much for this information: I am looking forward to growing some D. rhombifolia then; do you have a recommended source - there are some sources for seed and seedlings online.  As for D. lotus, now I recall you having once mentioning that to me but I forgot - the fruit, from photos I've seen, look so good.  Well, what I'll do then is plant one in a corner where it does not expend meaningful space and multi-graft it with the many seedlings I have and then, in the future, identify the least unpleasantly-flavored fruiting limb and select it (more as a novelty - sort of like my plantings of various Crataegus, native Malus spp., and Viburnum spp, to name just a few).  Good for a couple re-tries per year.

I had a feeling that D. texana (which I falsely called black sapote) would be excellent.  Is its flavor similar to that of D. virginiana, or does it have its own flavor, such as D. kaki vs D. virginiana?

Thanks,
Steve

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Today's Topics:





   1. [ARTICLE] Biodiversity gives big boost to agricultural


      output: study (Douglas Woodard)


   2. Self-fertile Meader A. arguta Male? (John S)


   3. Re: Any reviews on flavor characteristics of these	persimmons


      spp.: D... (Jwlehman@aol.com)


   4. Re: Self-fertile Meader A. arguta Male? (Hal Love)


   5. Scionwood wanted (Lee Reich)


   6. Seeking a New Membership Chair for NAFEX (Natelson, Ethan, M.D.)








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Message: 1


Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:21:09 -0500


From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org>


To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org


Subject: [NAFEX] [ARTICLE] Biodiversity gives big boost to


	agricultural	output: study


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I expect this has some relevance to fruit crops.


See


<http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/national/news/20101117p2a00m0na009000c.html> 








Doug Woodard


St. Catharines, Ontario








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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:10:47 -0800 (PST)


From: John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com>


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Subject: [NAFEX] Self-fertile Meader A. arguta Male?


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I've recently come across some information claiming that A. arguta 'Meader' 


(male) is self-fertile and produces fruit without another pollinator as well as 


pollinating other female kiwis.? Frankly, I don't believe it but there is at 


least one company selling this variety making that claim and some other sources 


supporting this on the web.





Anybody here have the facts?? I realize that kiwi pollination is somewhat 


atypical as apparently fruit production can take place for some varieties when 


pollinated cross species.? Any solid info would be appreciated.





thanks





John














      


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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:22:20 EST


From: Jwlehman@aol.com


To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org


Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Any reviews on flavor characteristics of these


	persimmons spp.: D...


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Hi Steve,





> 


> Has anyone here tasted the fruit of: date-plum (Diospyros lotus), I've 


> tasted quite a few D. lotus. Never tasted one that I particularly liked. Low 


> sugar and flavor isn't particularly inviting. diamond-leaf/princess 


> persimmon (D. rhombifolia), uncommon;  (D. texana) it is better than lotus for 


sure 


> but not as good as kaki, also very small, for those who live in Texas and 


> the vicinity? I've tasted the black sapote (D. digyna) at the Fruit & Spice 


> Park south of Miami, FL and another Botanical Garden in FL. It is better 


> than either lotus or texana, very large and is said to make good milk 


> shakes. The three trees at Fruit & Spice Park were blown over in Hurricane 


Andrew 


> about 6 years ago and no longer exist.    


>  





Jerry


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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 04:37:40 +0000 (UTC)


From: Hal Love <lovehd@comcast.net>


To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>


Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Self-fertile Meader A. arguta Male?


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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 05:30:48 -0500


From: Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com>


To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>


Subject: [NAFEX] Scionwood wanted


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Does anybody have a couple of scions of Attika and/or Regina sweet cherry that 


they'd like to share?





Lee Reich, PhD


http://www.leereich.com/


http://leereich.com/blog.html.





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On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:46 AM, William C. Garthright wrote:





> 


>> I have Brown Rot completely gone from all my 25 stone fruit trees using a few 


sprays of propiconazole , Monterey Fungi Fighter from Jungs. 


http://www.jungseed.com/dp.asp?pID=50291&c=218&p=Fungi-Fighter+Systemic+Fungicide+%28Qt%29


> 


> 


> Thanks, Grover!  I'll give that a try next year.


> 


> And yes, I'm going to try to thin heavily next year.  I always try, but the 


fruit is so tiny then that it looks thinner than it really is. And I hate to 


throw away potential fruit (even when I give almost all of it away, since I grow 


far more than I can possibly eat myself).


> 


> This year, too, I left a lot of fruit to try to slow down the growth of my 


trees. Everything is pretty crowded here, and I've been trying to keep my trees 


small. But next year, I'm going to thin heavily, so I can compare the 


difference. Well, I'm going to TRY to do that, anyway.


> 


> :-) 


> 


> Thanks again.


> 


> Bill


> Lincoln, NE (zone 5)


> 


> http://garthright.blogspot.com/


> 


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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:58:18 -0600


From: "Natelson, Ethan, M.D." <ENatelson@tmhs.org>


To: 'North American Fruit Explorers' <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>


Subject: [NAFEX] Seeking a New Membership Chair for NAFEX


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Dear Group,





     After many years of exemplary service to NAFEX, Jill Vorbeck is stepping 


down from her position of membership chair, and we are seeking her replacement.  


This is one of the few positions within NAFEX that carries a stipend, albeit 


modest and full reimbursement for expenses.  The current stipend is $1.50 per 


membership/year as determined by the membership numbers at the summer issue.  A 


brief description of some of the duties of the position includes the following:








1.      Collect and deposit membership dues and update the member's subscription 


expiration date in the membership file as well as process change of address 


notices and maintain an accurate physical and e-mail (where provided) address of 


all members.











2.      Send renewal reminder postcards in the quarter the membership expires 


(NAFEX will reimburse for postage and printed postcards).











3.      At the end of each quarter, provide the publisher with notification of 


how many issues to print (this has been modified, since only one issue, rather 


than four, will be printed as hard copy, each year, with the others sent by 


e-mail and perhaps a few by snail mail) and prepare bulk mailing labels.  Also 


send a file of active US members to the mailing center for the bulk mailing 


(deb@assembleandmailgroup.com<mailto:deb@assembleandmailgroup.com>).  Receive 


and package and label the foreign and Canadian issues and send to Johnson & 


Hayward, the freight consolidating service in New Jersey for additional bulk 


mailing.











4.      Handle general correspondence concerning subscriptions, dues 


reconciliation, complaints, etc.











5.      Work with Jackie Kuehn, our editor, and other officers and key 


leadership members as well as the people supervising our website.











6.      When possible, attend our annual meeting and participate in our Board 


discussions.











     It is difficult to put into this brief description all of the detail that 


would eventually require a phone conversation with Jill to understand fully.  We 


basically need a person that is computer literate and can maintain good records 


and is willing to help NAFEX in making the change in Pomona to an expanded 


on-line status and the growing pains this will entail.  If you are interested, 


please contact Felix Cooper (cooperoso@hotmail.com<mailto:cooperoso@hotmail.com>) 


or myself (natelson@pipeline.com<mailto:natelson@pipeline.com>) or Jill (for 


further details of the current duties) at vorbeck@csj.net<mailto:vorbeck@csj.net>).











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