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["Kieran and/or Donna" <holycow@frontiernet.net>]

got quick 90% germination,
basically the same as if they were tomato seeds. They grew fast in
pots the first year. Then they went downhill.


Yes, I have had good germination and then they'd go downhill in a matter of 
weeks.  I should go look in my book, bet I have all the info needed at home. 
Let me suggest that you grow them in very light, even sandy soil and keep 
them out of direct sun.  The one plant I had that survived, for several 
years in fact, was down by the creek in the woods, on a slope in high 
organic matter soil.  I had bought the plant, so that put it past the teeny 
weeny soon dead stage.    Donna