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  • From: Caren Kirk <quirky@videotron.ca>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Hardy Prunus, was Re: Staking of immature fruit trees
  • Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:12:06 -0500

Thanks Richard and Doug for your inputs.

Interesting Richard that you suspect deydration had a part in killing your Reliance, we had a freakishly warm and dry April and I think it played a part in doing in my Reliance ( I am ( or should I say was) way to lazy to water in April!).

Doug thanks for the advice, I adore apricots but seem to rememebr someone on NAFEX commenting that I could probably plant one up here but I would never get fruit, so I haven't been brave enough to try one, especially after this spring's losses. One mustn't give up but one does need the cash to keep planting!

As for plums, I can't wait to try fresh ripe plums off my own Mirabelle that I planted this spring. OK, it's got to survive ( it should be hardy enough), and will take a few years to fruit I know, but one must have hope!

Fruit optimists of the North unite!

Caren (Ag Can 4b)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Woodard" <dwoodard@becon.org>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] Hardy Prunus, was Re: Staking of immature fruit trees


Those in Zone 4 who really like peaches and are on well-drained sandy
soil might want to see if they like the mandschurica/armeniaca cross
prairie-hardy apricots, like Westcot and Morden 604. They might only get
a crop 2 years out of 5 but that's better than nothing, and they are a
pretty tree.

Those on heavier soil could try St. Julien A rootstocks if they have
reliable heavy snow cover.

Or they could experiment with the compatibility of Krikon Damson roots
or interstems, or Yellow Egg (might be marginally hardy) interstems on
hardy plum stocks. Pershore Yellow Egg is considered compatible with
apricot in Britain, and I presume that the North American Yellow Eggs
are related, though that is certainly not conclusive.

And, if you haven't considered quality plums and you can handle black
knot, you should think about plums, maybe start with Mount Royal (hardy
to about Agriculture Canada zone 4a). Commercial plum growers, for
respectable commercial reasons, insist on picking plums unripe. If you
haven't eaten a properly ripened high-quality plum (and I expect that
most beginning home growers haven't) you don't know what you're missing.


The Minnesota station had Krikon Damsom (still popular in Sweden,
possibly hardy to about 3b, at any rate a little hardier than Mount
Royal) around 1950 and perhaps they still do. I think Agriculture Canada
still has it in their collection.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



Richard MURPHY wrote:

[snip]

If anybody knows of a 'no-brainer' peach tree for zone 4, please
describe it !!
As for today, I know of no reliable type of peach for that climate.

[snip]
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