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  • From: Kevin Moore <aleguy33@yahoo.com>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] grass under pecan trees
  • Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT)

I believe the daffodils will help your fruit trees. as long as your soil is rich enough, there should be no competition to speak of.
Planting a ring of Dafs around the base of fruit trees is an old permaculture trick to keep mice and other varmints from chewing on the bark in winter.

From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] grass under pecan trees


On Mar 23, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Lucky Pittman wrote:

> At 08:50 AM 3/23/2009, you wrote:
>> When is the best time to transplant persimmon trees--breaking 
>> dormancy?
>
> Now.
>
>
>> Also I can't grow grass under pecan trees? is there a juglone-
>> resistant type:?
> If they're big, mature pecans, I suspect the issue is more shading
> and competition for moisture/nutrients than juglone toxicity.  You'd
> encounter the same issue(if not worse) trying to grow grass under a
> big, mature maple or oak.

Trees vary a lot on how competitive they are how well grass grows 
under them.  It's tough to grow grass under a mature healthy maple, 
but easy under a mature healthy oak.  I have black, white, and scarlet 
oaks and they all have grass growing densely up to their bases.

Beech trees always have a bare spot under their canopy.  I don't know 
if it's shade, water, or chemical warfare, but they don't share.

On a related note, I'm thinking of planting daffodils under my fruit 
trees. (Apple and apricot.)  Will the daffodils compete enough to hurt 
the growth of the trees?

Thanks,
Ginda Fisher
eastern MA, zone 6
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