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  • From: "Thomas Olenio" <tolenio@sentex.net>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] grow grapes on pines?
  • Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:40:42 -0500

Hello,

Trees are exactly what the ancients used to train grapes.

See Cato or Columella for specific instruction in this area.

Section "32, Tending Vines" of Cato's writings talks about training grapes to trees in this web page;

http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010121cato/catofarmtext.htm

Later,
Tom


On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:19:14 -0500, Charles Paradise <machelp@attglobal.net> wrote:

Thirty years ago two-needle red pines were planted in a single row on the back edge of the property. Sun goes directly onto several of them with not too much obstruction. The pines are off course tall, say 25' or 30', and the trunks are bare at least the bottom 15'. Dead limbs appear on the bare trunks appearing promising to help the grapes cling.

I've always thought pines beat the soil. I wonder if there will be enough water and other nutrients to encourage the grapes to grow up on them. On the other hand, one of the pines has an enormous volunteer grape, apparantly male-only because it blooms copiously, and it is a heavy vine growing completely to the top of the pine it is growing on.

So what do you all think? Are you for my planting the grapes at the base of the pines, or against it?

If you are for it, at what height should the grapes be kept down to? [climbing trees is a hard way to harvest grapes!]

Charlie Paradise
zone 5ish Massachusetts

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