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["Ed Fackler" <efackler@woh.rr.com>]

Orville:

 

     My best guess is that both your trees and trees from the local orchard are mislabeled or they are NOT true Suncrisp.  I've grown them for years (formerly called NJ-55) and have eaten them from other orchards and they most represent a true Cox taste of any of its sibs (possibly a slight bit sweeter).  And I've grown Cox Orange for years as well as possibly 20 or more of its more famous sibs including Kidd's Orange which can be quite good under decent conditions when near maturity.

 

Ed, doing okay in central Ohio

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Orville Courtney
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:56 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Apple questions.

Mr. Fackler:

 

   I really appreciate the information about the Kent and Suntan apples. I do have a question about Suncrisp though.

   I have a Suncrisp (on EMLA 9) that fruited for the first time this year. The taste seemed very bland. There was not enough of anything - sweet, sour, aromatic, or flavor. There also is a local orchard that had Suncrisp (on EMLA 9) for the first time this year, and all of the ones I got from them (and I deliberately got ones from underripe to overripe) were the same. I also could not taste anything that resembled Cox Orange Pippin. Is it possible that it takes a few years to develope more of anything or could the climate, rootstock, or something else be the problem?

   I also had Queen Cox (on EMLA 26) fruit for the first time this year. I missed spraying it, so it was wormy and a little green when I picked it. It was still Wonderful . It has everything that makes a Cox great - the sweet-acid balance, the fantastic flavor, and the aromatics. I would sooner have a slice of the Queen Cox than a bushel of the Suncrisp.

   I definitely am a fan of high flavor balanced apples, so that probably has something to do with my feelings about Suncrisp. Thanks in advance for any info or comments.

 

Orville Courtney

Topeka, KS

Zone 5B

      ----- Original Message -----

From: Ed Fackler

To: North American Fruit Explorers

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:09 AM

Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Apple questions.

Orville:

 

     I grew both varieties in Southern Indiana during the late 80s and 90s. 

 

Kent (Flower of Kent is one syn.) is actually quite large and flavor barely okay---not great.

 

Suntan.  Great apple, but like its parent Court Pendu Plat it is very shy in production.  Also I recall that in some years heat would cause a lot of internal breakdown prior to maturity.  (FYI, many Cox sibs have this problem in the typical hot humid midwest summer/fall.)

 

     If the Cox flavor is what you are after, try Suncrisp.  Although it has problems (sensative to most all diseases), it is incredibly productive and its flavor is a great complex (richly sweet) package.

 

Ed, So. Central Ohio, light snow

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Orville Courtney
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:45 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [NAFEX] Apple questions.

Hello,

   Does anyone have any experience growing either one of the following apples?

 

1. Kent (Malling Kent)(Cox Orange Pippin X Jonathan cross) Described as medium size conical fruit with light red skin and smooth russet radiations from the stem end. Crisp white flesh that is rich with lots of sugar and acidity, quite aromatic.

2. Suntan (Cox Orange Pippin X Court Pendu Plat cross) Described as medium-large size with gold-yellow skin flushed and striped orange-red. Yellowish-cream flesh that is sweet-sharp, juicy, rich, robustly aromatic, and has very good flavor.

 

Thanks,

Orville Courtney

Topeka, KS

Zone 5B

 

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