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- From: "IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN" <ilichten1@verizon.net>
- To: <Jorene@CEOates.com>, "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?--facility
- Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:05:52 -0400
The question is what facilities do you need and then what
will they cost. By law, at least in Many non-profit facilities will cut their charges but not
waive them. The people at the Extension need funding for the 4-H as much
as we do for MSAR. I can grab 30-40 beds at a hostel, across the road
from a former police barn which may have 20 empty stalls, less than 10 minutes
from an interstate, but if I need classrooms or an auditorium I have to go 2
miles away to a city facility that is not climate controlled or equipped. The
use of a city ag school is being looked at because we might get a waiver for
camping in the pastures across the street, there are hotels nearby, the school
is fully equipped, and abuts an access point to the Wissahickon Valley portion
of Fairmount Park. A large (450 acres) farm bordering the city is changing
hands on the first of the month whether the new owners are friendly is not yet
known. The conservancies that control some large properties don’t
even let the general public in to see them. Again, what do you want to teach or discuss? This sets
the needs for the facilities and the underlying costs. It is not that there are
no facilities but do we want to rent the market in some areas it is not in all. Irv Lichtenstein From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jorene Downs If you think outside
the box for an MSAR-specific weekend training/conference and plan on horse
camping, in many parts of the country there are huge farms and ranches, hunting
preserves, etc., with owners agreeable to allowing use of their land within certain
parameters. “No existing facilities” is simply a challenge to
overcome with good logistics planning. If there is any
charge for use, sometimes the owner is willing to waive actual payment as a tax
donation write-off. (Assuming a tax deductible status.) - - - - - - Jorene
Downs SAR & CERT Mounted SAR From: IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN The facility to be used depends on the
purpose of the conference. […] And if you are going to teach or exercise MSAR tactics you
need all the land and the horse support facilities. You also need to support
the conference itself—meals, sanitary facilities, first aid crew,
administration and logistics. […] The major problem is finding a facility
that combines all these features or can be adapted for use. State/ County
parks often have the land, camping sites, and may even have a nature center
auditorium. Unfortunately they may not have horse or dog accommodations
and do not allow for exclusive use of an area. Similarly, horseback
riding vacation facilities may have the stalls but the cost may be too high for
volunteers. […] Could this activity be staged entirely
indoors or in limited outdoor competition areas? This would open the
possibilities up to include show grounds and even the Pennsylvania Farm Show
Complex. Depending on the levels of support needed even a 4-H center
would do, if you want to pay $600 per ring per day, plus crew. And you
still need overnight facilities in most locations. […] |
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?,
Bridgette Adkison, 05/29/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, emboote, 05/29/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?,
Shirley Roberts, 05/29/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, James Ford, 05/29/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, Una Smith, 05/29/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, porleslie, 05/30/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 05/23/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?,
Jorene Downs, 05/24/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?--facility,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 05/24/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?--facility,
Jorene Downs, 05/24/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?--facility,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 05/24/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?--facility, Una Smith, 05/25/2009
- [MSAR] SAR Perspectives / Training Conference idea?--facility, Jorene Downs, 05/25/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?--facility,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 05/24/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?--facility,
Jorene Downs, 05/24/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?--facility,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 05/24/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, T'mi Fi, 05/24/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, Una Smith, 05/25/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, pennbo, 05/27/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?, pennbo, 05/30/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Training Conference idea?,
Bridgette Adkison, 05/29/2009
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