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  • From: Todd Lister <toddlister1 AT gmail.com>
  • To: thamnophis AT gmail.com, Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] A Farmer's Opinion on NRCS and why its a poor pro gram...
  • Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:56:28 -0400

Great post Joe!
Todd Lister

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Thamnophis <thamnophis AT gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/7/11, Thamnophis <thamnophis AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Rivka - I was told they could not divulge the specifics of who
> received the grant money. but I'm pretty sure they could provide
> general info - state and county funding.
>
> Truth is this program is a tiny drop in the bucket of tax-payer
> supported investments. And it may have a very big and very positive
> return on investment.
>
> If you have ever spent time in countries that do not tax and then
> reinvest in their communities you know how valuable our system of
> government supported activities are.
>
> Iowa used to lead the nation in all sorts of vegetable and fruit
> production - apples, grapes, melons and many more. In the last 50
> years we have become a wasteland of GMO corn and soybeans grown on
> 5000 acre farms by corporations rather than family farmers.
>
> This is a good program that is looking at the viability of redirecting
> a tiny bit of federal funds to resurrecting the true family farm and
> the healthy, local produce they can generate.
>
> As I said before, all federal programs have to be judges on their
> results. We may be doubtful of the results based on our local
> situation, but unless you have access to the total body of data, your
> assumptions are based on incomplete data and therefore flawed.
>
> Reminds me of poor Rick Perry who spent the last couple weeks
> denouncing climate science only have to return to his burning state.
> And now, instead of denouncing federal tax payer supported programs,
> he has to beg for them.
>
> All federal programs suck, when we are not the recipient.
>
> Joe
> Boone County, IA
>
>
>
> On 9/7/11, Road's End Farm <organic87 AT frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 10:39 AM, cjmaness AT juno.com wrote:
>>
>>> I was speaking more of my own particular county, and how they
>>> handled the whole process. It was frustrating for several of us who
>>> tried to apply and were denied. I can't help wonder where are these
>>> farmers who received the funding for a tunnel? What are they
>>> growing? Where are they selling?
>>
>> That ought to be public record. Have you made any attempt to find out?
>>
>> If it wasn't in the papers, your county agent and/or state offices
>> should be able to tell you who got the funding. As they're supposed to
>> be reporting on results, what they're growing should eventually be
>> available information, even if it's not available right now, which it
>> might be.
>>
>> Where they're selling might be considered proprietary. However, if you
>> went and found out who got the grants, you could probably call them up
>> and ask them, and they might well tell you.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 5 mostly
>> Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
>
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