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  • From: "Kathi L. Whitman" <kwhitman AT incredibleenglish.com>
  • To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone Tried This?
  • Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:47:59 +0000

Just curious, does anyone have dogs? I have a couple of good dogs and rarely, if ever, see deer or the results of damage from deer, raccoons, etc.

Kathi W.
The Ms. Fit Ranch
Liberty, MO
 
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(mdbrabo AT att.net) 11. selling farm equipment (idyllwild farm) 12. Re: Anyone tried this? (mdbrabo AT att.net) 13. Re: selling farm equipment (mdbrabo AT att.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:21:27 -0500 From: "William H Shoemaker" To: "'Market Farming'" Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: <77142.80488.qm AT smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Allan Does West Virginia compensate farmers who've lost crops to deer? Bill William H. Shoemaker Sr. Research Specialist, Food Crops University of Illinois - Crop Sciences St Charles Horticulture Research Center 535 Randall Road, St Charles, IL, 60174 630-584-7254, FAX-584-4610 wshoemak AT illinois.edu -----Original Message----- From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Allan.Balliett Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:11 AM To: Market Farming Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? >With motion sensors that trigger lights AND sounds? and a punt gun, I think. Actually, I hate to mention this in public, but I'm starting to feel like we should have the right to, poison, like slugs, deer that forage on our crops. (An organic poison, of course.) I know this is a retro view, but, then again, how do they really differ from, say, a rat infestation? Except, of course, that the deer belong to the state and the state believes that SOMEONE will pay a couple of weeks out of the year to shoot them... -Allan in WV where's he's now finding himself hoping there'd be a OMRI approved deer poison bait that actually left the livers quite edible... _______________________________________________ Market-farming mailing list Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming Market Farming List Archives may be found here: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/market-farming/ Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email address and password): http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:49:57 -0400 From: Road's End Farm To: Market Farming Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: <8B2A3D88-635D-4BC3-B171-980D838EEF06 AT frontiernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Allan.Balliett wrote: > > Actually, I hate to mention this in public, but I'm starting to feel > like we should have the right to, poison, like slugs, deer that > forage on our crops. (An organic poison, of course.) I know this is > a retro view, but, then again, how do they really differ from, say, > a rat infestation? Except, of course, that the deer belong to the > state and the state believes that SOMEONE will pay a couple of weeks > out of the year to shoot them... The problems (aside from the desire of many humans to have nothing kill deer but them) are: how do you make sure that only deer can get at the poison? and, how do you make sure that the poisoned carcass doesn't get eaten by anything that will itself be poisoned? -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 5 mostly Fresh-market organic produce, small scale ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:43:48 -0400 From: "Tom & Mel at Limerock" To: "Market Farming" Subject: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: <7BCE08B9433E47629B70B0DD61C71ABB@limerockx43xyz> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response A neighbor swears by some motion-activated thingy that turns on a long-range sprinkler. She has a lot of deer that forage during the late afternoon/early evening. (Granted, she is not large-scale production.) Tom Limerock Orchards and Roadside Market Near Lake Erie ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:47:35 -0400 From: "Tom & Mel at Limerock" To: "Market Farming" Subject: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: <022467F1855F4F1FA011A8DF0CB7D9B1@limerockx43xyz> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ohio will usually issue 'kill permits' after you prove the damage. The permits will even allow use of lights (depending on the issuing officer). Tom Limerock Orchards and Roadside Market Near Lake Erie > Allan > > Does West Virginia compensate farmers who've lost crops to deer? > > Bill > William H. Shoemaker > Sr. Research Specialist, Food Crops > University of Illinois - Crop Sciences > St Charles Horticulture Research Center > 535 Randall Road, St Charles, IL, 60174 > 630-584-7254, FAX-584-4610 > wshoemak AT illinois.edu ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:08:42 -0400 From: "Allan.Balliett" To: Unschooler AT lrec.org, Market Farming Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Can't imagine it would work. We have oodles of deer that seem to >prefer to eat right under our dawn-to-dusk lights on the end of the >barn. Similar for us. We have deer in our backyard in the evenings, eating ornamentals. I guess it's possible that lights on timers might cause some alarm, but I don't know. Now, there's those deer spookers that supposedly look like the eyes of predators...maybe you could imitate that set up with cheaper equipment... ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:08:53 -0400 From: "Allan.Balliett" To: Market Farming Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Allan > >Does West Virginia compensate farmers who've lost crops to deer? > >Bill >William H. Shoemaker Bill - I know it sounds strange, but I don't really farm for money, (I farm for food for our CSA shareholders) so I haven't looked into that, nor have I heard of it. WV is very liberal on allowing farmers to kill deer on their property, though, but that is pretty much limited to the use of projectiles of some sort. I, frankly, do not have the time to sit in a deer blind every evening. I wish I did, of course, but I just don't have the time. -Allan in WV ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:09:02 -0400 From: "Allan.Balliett" To: Market Farming Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >The problems (aside from the desire of many humans to have nothing >kill deer but them) are: how do you make sure that only deer can get >at the poison? and, how do you make sure that the poisoned carcass >doesn't get eaten by anything that will itself be poisoned? In my dream, it would be a fast acting poison that would drop the deer in its tracks, or, at least just as it walks out of the garden. The dead deer would only be toxic to foxes that have ever tasted chicken, racoons and possums. Chickens would actually thrive on the deer carcasses, which would also odorlessly assimilate into existing compost piles, if necessary. ... ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:33:59 -0400 (EDT) From: KAKerby AT aol.com To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: <46ec0.847bd30.3996cdf7 AT aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What's the season for deer? Sounds like perhaps you should be offering your CSA some fresh venison, if that's a legal option..... Kathryn Kerby frogchorusfarm.com Snohomish, WA In a message dated 8/13/2010 9:09:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allan.balliett AT gmail.com writes: >Allan > >Does West Virginia compensate farmers who've lost crops to deer? > >Bill >William H. Shoemaker Bill - I know it sounds strange, but I don't really farm for money, (I farm for food for our CSA shareholders) so I haven't looked into that, nor have I heard of it. WV is very liberal on allowing farmers to kill deer on their property, though, but that is pretty much limited to the use of projectiles of some sort. I, frankly, do not have the time to sit in a deer blind every evening. I wish I did, of course, but I just don't have the time. -Allan in WV _______________________________________________ Market-farming mailing list Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming Market Farming List Archives may be found here: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/market-farming/ Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email address and password): http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:56:51 -0400 From: Richard Robinson To: Market Farming Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: <2010813125651.345741@Zelda> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:09:02 -0400, Allan.Balliett wrote: >?In my dream, it would be a fast acting poison that would drop the deer in its >?tracks... In my dream, the deer would only browse the clover patch I planted for them, and the woodchucks would munch only on the zucchini at the end of the row, and the red squirrels would confine themselves to the half pint of strawberries I placed out for them every day, and the voles would eat all of one pumpkin, not take a nibble from every one in the patch...well, I can dream, can't I? -- Richard Robinson www.nasw.org/users/rrobinson/ Hopestill Farm www.hopestill.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:12:13 +0000 From: mdbrabo AT att.net To: "Market Farming" Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: <610000602-1281719525-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1121690409- AT bda223.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" You can "hope still" Richard! Grin Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry? smartphone -----Original Message----- From: Richard Robinson Sender: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:56:51 To: Market Farming Reply-To: Market Farming Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:09:02 -0400, Allan.Balliett wrote: >?In my dream, it would be a fast acting poison that would drop the deer in its >?tracks... In my dream, the deer would only browse the clover patch I planted for them, and the woodchucks would munch only on the zucchini at the end of the row, and the red squirrels would confine themselves to the half pint of strawberries I placed out for them every day, and the voles would eat all of one pumpkin, not take a nibble from every one in the patch...well, I can dream, can't I? -- Richard Robinson www.nasw.org/users/rrobinson/ Hopestill Farm www.hopestill.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:18:31 -0400 From: idyllwild farm To: Market Farming Subject: [Market-farming] selling farm equipment Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi: Do folks have suggestions for selling farm equipment online besides craig's list. I have a bed former that just isn't going to fit our operation and I don't think there are too many people in the Cinci area that will be interested... Thanks, Mike Idyllwild Farm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:18:37 +0000 From: mdbrabo AT att.net To: "Market Farming" Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? Message-ID: <524926875-1281719910-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-934279667- AT bda223.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" After heavy losses last year to deer we've added a black lab pup. At 5 month old now he keeps all deer out of a 3.5 ac growing area. Mike Vesterbrook Farm Clarksville MO Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry? smartphone -----Original Message----- From: "Allan.Balliett" Sender: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:08:42 To: ; Market Farming Reply-To: Market Farming Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Anyone tried this? >Can't imagine it would work. We have oodles of deer that seem to >prefer to eat right under our dawn-to-dusk lights on the end of the >barn. Similar for us. We have deer in our backyard in the evenings, eating ornamentals. I guess it's possible that lights on timers might cause some alarm, but I don't know. Now, there's those deer spookers that supposedly look like the eyes of predators...maybe you could imitate that set up with cheaper equipment... _______________________________________________ Market-farming mailing list Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming Market Farming List Archives may be found here: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/market-farming/ Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email address and password): http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:20:23 +0000 From: mdbrabo AT att.net To: "Market Farming" Subject: Re: [Market-farming] selling farm equipment Message-ID: <2046303549-1281720022-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2097737614- AT bda223.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Mike I'm interested. Pls send me info off list. Thanks Mike Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry? smartphone -----Original Message----- From: idyllwild farm Sender: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:18:31 To: Market Farming Reply-To: Market Farming Subject: [Market-farming] selling farm equipment _______________________________________________ Market-farming mailing list Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming Market Farming List Archives may be found here: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/market-farming/ Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email address and password): http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Market-farming mailing list Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming Get the list FAQ at: http://www.marketfarming.net/mflistfaq.htm End of Market-farming Digest, Vol 91, Issue 18 **********************************************



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