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- From: maureen bostock <maureenbostock AT hotmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Salt Buildup in Hoophouses
- Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:49:22 -0800
I would like to hear more about salt buildups as a result of the compost used. Which materials in compost would cause this? Maureen Bostock Sweet Meadow Farm > From: market-farming-request AT lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Market-farming Digest, Vol 61, Issue 20 > To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:04:44 -0500 > > Send Market-farming mailing list submissions to > market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > market-farming-request AT lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > market-farming-owner AT lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Market-farming digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: purchased transplants: price per flat (Robert Schuler) > 2. Re: organic standards for cleaning out conventional boom > sprayer (Steve Diver) > 3. Re: Wheel hoes and Lie-down weeders (Richard Stewart) > 4. Re: purchased transplants: price per flat (Steve Bridges) > 5. Re: purchased transplants: price per flat (Allan Balliett) > 6. Johnny's (Andrew R. King) > 7. Re: Johnny's (Fellenz) > 8. Re: Johnny's (Richard Stewart) > 9. Re: Johnny's (SaladG AT aol.com) > 10. Re: Johnny's (cjmaness AT juno.com) > 11. Re: Johnny's (Home Grown Kansas!) > 12. Re: Salt Buildup in hoophouse soil (Suzi Bernhard) > 13. Re: Salt build-up in hoophouse soil (Upson, Steve) > 14. Re: Sun Gro Organic mixes (Rosie Creek Farm) > 15. Re: Market-farming Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 RE :Corn Gluten > (Mark Abner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:36:11 -0600 (CST) > From: Robert Schuler <sunnfarm AT verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] purchased transplants: price per flat > To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <27867531.259061203442571337.JavaMail.root AT vms126.mailsrvcs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I started out growing transplants years ago and its still a great way for new comers to start up in the greenhouse business. Today I sell a very limited quantity of farm type transplants in 50 TLC trays. I get $7.00 a tray for hybrid tomatoes peppers eggplants, in quantities of at least 10 trays. Most of what I sell are left overs that I did not plant in my field... Bob. > > > Does anyone on this list grow transplants (by the flat) for other farms or have you bought transplants (by the flat) from nearby growers? I am wondering what prices are typically charged. Thanks much. > > Also, does anyone know a source (dealer) for Nibex precision seeders? I can't seem to find anything on-line by Googling. > > -John > _______________________________________________ > Market-farming mailing list > Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:09:42 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > From: Steve Diver <steved AT ipa.net> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] organic standards for cleaning out > conventional boom sprayer > To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <6180510.1203444582670.JavaMail.root AT mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/market-farming/attachments/20080219/c76fd37a/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:31:12 -0500 > From: Richard Stewart <rstewart AT zoomtown.com> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Wheel hoes and Lie-down weeders > To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <C9D66844-9A79-4A3D-831D-87964C92D2B9 AT zoomtown.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Here is a better look of the wheel hoe I was rebuilding. > > This is from yesterday with the metal stripped and repainted and the > wood oiled. > > http://gallery.mac.com/thesw0rdofroland/100084/IMG_2592/web.jpg > > Richard Stewart > Carriage House Farm > North Bend, Ohio > > An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855 > > (513) 967-1106 > http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com > rstewart AT zoomtown.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:57:45 -0600 > From: "Steve Bridges" <steve AT texasgrown.com> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] purchased transplants: price per flat > To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <004401c8740b$a0dcb420$e2961c60$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Speedling grows great transplants. Last year they provided me with beautiful > tomato and pepper plants for $0.04,,,that's four cents per plant! > > See http://www.speedling.com/products/vegetables/ > > ~~~~~ > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN A > HENDRICKSON > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 3:48 PM > To: Market Farming > Subject: [Market-farming] purchased transplants: price per flat > > Does anyone on this list grow transplants (by the flat) for other farms or > have you bought transplants (by the flat) from nearby growers? I am > wondering what prices are typically charged. Thanks much. > > Also, does anyone know a source (dealer) for Nibex precision seeders? I > can't seem to find anything on-line by Googling. > > -John > _______________________________________________ > Market-farming mailing list > Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:20:25 -0500 > From: Allan Balliett <aballiett AT frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] purchased transplants: price per flat > To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <p06230928c3e29e4554d3@[192.168.123.183]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Steve - Please put your location on all of your posts. > > Does Speedling ship nationally or only within the states mentioned on > the webpage? > > Thanks > > -Allan Balliett > Shepherdstown, WV > > >Speedling grows great transplants. Last year they provided me with beautiful > >tomato and pepper plants for $0.04,,,that's four cents per plant! > > > >See http://www.speedling.com/products/vegetables/ > > > >~~~~~ > >Steve > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org > >[mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN A > >HENDRICKSON > >Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 3:48 PM > >To: Market Farming > >Subject: [Market-farming] purchased transplants: price per flat > > > >Does anyone on this list grow transplants (by the flat) for other farms or > >have you bought transplants (by the flat) from nearby growers? I am > >wondering what prices are typically charged. Thanks much. > > > >Also, does anyone know a source (dealer) for Nibex precision seeders? I > >can't seem to find anything on-line by Googling. > > > >-John > >_______________________________________________ > >Market-farming mailing list > >Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > >http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Market-farming mailing list > >Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > >http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:09:07 -0500 > From: "Andrew R. King" <andrew.king2 AT worldnet.att.net> > Subject: [Market-farming] Johnny's > To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <000001c87575$a6c682b0$e6544c0c@sunflower> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > For the past seven years I have purchased a large percentage of my seeds > from Johnny's. Each year up to now their service and products have been > great. This year is a different story. A number of items that I purchased > had low germination rates and one item was mislabeled. I have sent them > emails but have not received a response. Is this an isolate situation or > have any of you seen a change in Johnny's service? > > Andy King > Sunflower King's Farm > http://www.sunflowerkingsfarm.com/ > PA Zone 6 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:09:24 -0500 > From: Fellenz <fellenz AT fltg.net> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Johnny's > To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <47BF0FD4.7060805 AT fltg.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I haven't had any issues with my orders so far this season. > > Andy > www.FellenzFamilyFarm.com > > Andrew R. King wrote: > > For the past seven years I have purchased a large percentage of my seeds > > from Johnny's. Each year up to now their service and products have been > > great. This year is a different story. A number of items that I purchased > > had low germination rates and one item was mislabeled. I have sent them > > emails but have not received a response. Is this an isolate situation or > > have any of you seen a change in Johnny's service? > > > > Andy King > > Sunflower King's Farm > > http://www.sunflowerkingsfarm.com/ > > PA Zone 6 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Market-farming mailing list > > Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:12:04 -0500 > From: Richard Stewart <rstewart AT zoomtown.com> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Johnny's > To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <ED16D049-7E2A-471B-8550-D346B96EFB07 AT zoomtown.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > So far all my Johnny's seeds have germinated well (spinach, onions, > lettuce). He few tomato seeds I have planted are all booming right > along (all of these seeds are a mix a hybrid, heirloom, and organic). > > Communications has been excellent. They have always let me know if > an order is split shipping or backordered. I was notified just > recently via mail and email that a 250 cuc seeds were out of balance > in terms of pollinating and I received a new packet of seeds to > replace (or add to) the existing one. > > To date, nothing has been mislabeled. > > My orders have been spread out between the second week in January and > the first week in Feb. I do not have all my seeds yet because some > ship at later dates. Like Horseradish. > > You say you have emailed them, but have you called? I always call so > I can get a name and number... > > Emails are often times too casual, often overlooked, and, > unfortunately, get you less in terms of customer service, be it a > national bank, the government, or a seed company. > > Good luck. > > Richard Stewart > Carriage House Farm > North Bend, Ohio > > An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855 > > (513) 967-1106 > http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com > rstewart AT zoomtown.com > > > > > On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Andrew R. King wrote: > > > For the past seven years I have purchased a large percentage of my > > seeds > > from Johnny's. Each year up to now their service and products have > > been > > great. This year is a different story. A number of items that I > > purchased > > had low germination rates and one item was mislabeled. I have sent > > them > > emails but have not received a response. Is this an isolate > > situation or > > have any of you seen a change in Johnny's service? > > > > Andy King > > Sunflower King's Farm > > http://www.sunflowerkingsfarm.com/ > > PA Zone 6 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Market-farming mailing list > > Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:23:37 EST > From: SaladG AT aol.com > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Johnny's > To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <c63.27d2ebdb.34f06d29 AT aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've had nothing but good service from Johnny's and talked to them yesterday > with my order and adding to it, they went over board to find the person that > was filling my order and did some adding and subtracting from the original > order. > > We have used them for many years and have had very little problems, and any > problems we had they were great in getting them resolved. We probably get 70% > from them and seed has always been very good germ. We order all of our fall > planting seeds from them for the hoophouses and have been good germs on them. > Fall orders with some companies have not been very good at all. > > I will always recommend Johnny's. > > Phil form Iowa > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/market-farming/attachments/20080222/f1b3814a/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:46:00 GMT > From: "cjmaness AT juno.com" <cjmaness AT juno.com> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Johnny's > To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <20080223.114600.27363.0 AT webmail01.dca.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > We've had the same great service we always get with Johnny's. I ordered some lettuce seed and it had less germ. than recommended so they sent me nearly double the amount I originally ordered to compensate. > Rupp is a different story. The seed trickles in with them. Broccoli seed arrived weeks after I needed it. Luckily I had enough left from last fall to get us started. > Carla > Maness Farm > Perkins, OK > _____________________________________________________________ > Click here for free information on consolidating your debt. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m2biE3AsDvEdhVQwcLtLrAm8vTtUIeIf1mPs0NInTOQX3tC/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:06:37 -0800 (PST) > From: Home Grown Kansas! <hgkansas AT sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Johnny's > To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <599988.94328.qm AT web80605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I once had a problem with a Johnny's order. Same sort of problem - wrong seed in a pack or mis-labeled. There was a germination problem also. This was several years back. Johnny's did all they could to compensate me for the problem. They are a good company that stands behind their products. Things happen - you just hope they don't happen more than once. > > Elzie > Wichita, Kansas > > "cjmaness AT juno.com" <cjmaness AT juno.com> wrote: > We've had the same great service we always get with Johnny's. I ordered some lettuce seed and it had less germ. than recommended so they sent me nearly double the amount I originally ordered to compensate. > Rupp is a different story. The seed trickles in with them. Broccoli seed arrived weeks after I needed it. Luckily I had enough left from last fall to get us started. > Carla > Maness Farm > Perkins, OK > _____________________________________________________________ > Click here for free information on consolidating your debt. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m2biE3AsDvEdhVQwcLtLrAm8vTtUIeIf1mPs0NInTOQX3tC/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Market-farming mailing list > Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/market-farming/attachments/20080223/bc9b1dd9/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:14:43 -0600 > From: "Suzi Bernhard" <ssb005 AT gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Salt Buildup in hoophouse soil > To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: > <df6e7f240802171014g5fdcd243x4a367e693bcf408e AT mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Greg, > Your salt buildup is likely from a high salt content in your compost. > It is really important to get your compost analyzed before you put it > on, because things like salt buildup can happen really easy. Compost > usually has high salt content, especially if you use certain residues > etc. > Suzi > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:08:39 -0600 > From: "Upson, Steve" <sdupson AT noble.org> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Salt build-up in hoophouse soil > To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <8994836520E0114AA93614449ABDC14D0174F1D5 AT MAIL1.noble.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Greg, the attached article should help: > http://www.noble.org/Ag/Horticulture/Salinity/index.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Greg York > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:21 AM > To: Market Farming > Subject: [Market-farming] Salt build-up in hoophouse soil > > Has anyone on the list had problems with excessive salt build up in > organically managed hoophouse soils? We have been growing in our four > hoophouses for three years, and are seeing very high sodium ppm in our > soil analyses for each house this year. The only amendment we have > added is compost over the three years. Any suggestions on how to > address this from your experience? Thanks. > > Greg > Thanksgiving Farm > Zone 5b, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Confidentiality Notice > > This email and the information contained herein and attachments hereto > are privileged and confidential information and may include Personal > Health Information and are intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above. If the reader of this email is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any forwarding, dissemination, > distribution or copying of this email and/or its attachments, or the > taking of any action in reliance on the contents thereof, is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the > sender immediately by return email or telephone, delete the email and > any attachments and destroy any tangible manifestation thereof. Thank > you. > _______________________________________________ > Market-farming mailing list > Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:30:03 -0900 > From: Rosie Creek Farm <rosie-ck AT mosquitonet.com> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Sun Gro Organic mixes > To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <479F7EBB.2080807 AT mosquitonet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Fellenz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Anyone have experience with any of the Sun Gro OMRI approved mixes for > > starting plants in the greenhouse? It looks like pricing will be better > > on the peat based mix from Sun Gro compared to a compost mix from > > Vermont Compost, I am curious as to how well they perform for vegetable > > starts. If it matters, I am located in Central/Western NY. > > > > Andy > > _______________________________________________ > > Market-farming mailing list > > Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > > > > > > We've used the Sun-gro organic mixes for the last 4 years. I think > they're just fine and they are cost-effective for us to ship - way up > here in Alaska. We usually have to order them by the pallet (30 bales) > and a number of growers up here go in on an order together. The major > greenhouse suppliers all order from sungro so piggybacking another item > on their lists isn't too bad. It ends up costing us ~$32 per bale after > shipping. I've looked into other mixes that might be better but, in the > end, I can't afford them. A couple of our growers thought they had > problems with diseases in one or 2 bales, but I've never had a problem. > > Mike Emers > Rosie Creek Farm > Certified Organic > Ester, Alaska > Zone 1 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:19:43 -0500 > From: "Mark Abner" <wizard1 AT ctsbroadband.com> > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Market-farming Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 > RE :Corn Gluten > To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <GCEFKCEMBDDEJMCLFHDLEEIKDAAA.wizard1 AT ctsbroadband.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > go to the feed mill corn gluten is $8.50 per hundred pound bag > > > Mark one 6b > > -----Original Message----- > From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of > Huntingfool306 AT aol.com > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:26 AM > To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Market-farming Digest, Vol 60,Issue 27 RE > :Corn Gluten > > > Hi I was just thinking about using corn gluten myself Fedco sells corn > gluten it is 45$ for 50 pounds. 2000 pounds is 1600$.The application rate is > 20 pounds per hundred square feet close to the time of weed germination . > > Moderator I hope this is ok if not feel free to edit > > Quoting the Fedco catalog " Corn Gluten (10% N) Works as a pre-emergent > weeds like dandelions,pigweed,and crabgrass by inhibiting root formation. > Not recommended for use on existing weeds as the thigh nitrogen content > makes it very effective fertilizer for leaf growth. Moisture is necessary > for activation but too much moisture reduces effectiveness. Can be used in > gardens for weed control once the desired plants are well established > seedlings. A good practice would be manual cultivation followed by an > application of corn gluten." > > I know when it is used on lawns to kill broadleaf weds it takes a few > years to fully control them. Hope this helps. > > Ted and Sue > Catskill Organics Farm > Davenport NY zone 4/5 > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Start the year off right. 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Re: [Market-farming] Salt Buildup in Hoophouses,
maureen bostock, 02/25/2008
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