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  • From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost AT gilanet.com>
  • To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Undercutting prices
  • Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:46:37 -0600


>I don't know if you are correct that the market can set the
>prices legally.
>
>The market is just a venue, theoretically open to *all* of a
>particular sort of people: the people who grow their own
>produce.

I think most of us would be against a market simply dictating prices to the
growers. But we all know growers have costs and have to charge a fair price
to make it worth doing in the first place. We know growers can't make any
money if they sell below cost or undercut so much they're working for free.
And when they sell so low they can't make money, they can only be doing it to
drive out competition, hoping to raise their prices afterward. That's called
predatory pricing, I believe. So someone in charge of the market rules needs
to be able to intervene when they see that happening. I'd encourage vendors
to cooperate with each other, sending customers to others when they don't
have what they're looking for. That's good business and it works.

I think ethics comes into the picture. Big business is an ethical cesspool
but market farming shouldn't be.

paul AT largocreekfarms.com
http://medicinehill.net
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On 9/23/2004 at 8:52 AM Pat Meadows wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:31:12 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I'd like to agree about the other stuff, but we have nothing like
>unregulated capitalism, since government is knee-deep in everything.
>Everything. We can't name a single area of commerce that government isn't
>involved in. If you sell used books, you have taxable income, maybe state
>too, and don't forget sales tax and other red tape. Of course it isn't
>worth it if you have all that paperwork just to make a few pennies.
>
>We did the paperwork, which was surprisingly easy and quick.
>We paid our state tax and our federal tax. There was no
>sales tax because we sold only on the Internet, except on
>sales being shipped to an address in Pennsylvania (the state
>we live in), and we actually never had one!
>
>We have an S-corp and therefore the we conduct business,
>etc., and file the taxes and so on via the S-corp. We do
>several little hopefully-making-money things under the aegis
>of the corporation. The paperwork is not especially
>burdensome.
>
>Bookkeeping: Quicken. Taxes: TurboTax. Easy.
>
>
>>> it's everyone's
>>>right (by law) to sell whatever they like for whatever price
>>>they wish to charge.
>>
>>But if they're in a contract with a private or publicly run market, that
>market has the right to set rules and sign contracts under those rules.
>Now if you can go sell someplace by the side of the road, you can probably
>do as you please. IF your city, county, or state don't outlaw it.
>
>I don't know if you are correct that the market can set the
>prices legally.
>
>The market is just a venue, theoretically open to *all* of a
>particular sort of people: the people who grow their own
>produce. If you kicked me out of such a market because I
>priced my goods lower than others, maybe I'd sue you.
>
>(This is all hypothetical, all right? To repeat: I
>personally would not do any of this.)
>
>It would be interesting to know if any legal case has ever
>been brought about this, and the resolution of it.
>
>Pat
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