Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>]

Perhaps you should Google "Arctic News blogspot". The articles there are not 
so optimistic and worse, there is no prepping possible for that.
john

> Useful & constructive info there. I will comment on the no "huge tragic
> thing
> to prep for" tho. Climate change is one thing that's not a "maybe" or
> far off possibility. It's here now & certain to get much worse in our
> time, & now no major scientific organization on earth disputes the fact.
> Trouble is we really can't predict exact effects in specific regions for
> the most part (coastal areas are toast).
>
> These 2 articles are the more optimistic of many & not much of a guide
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/climate-change-underway-in-us-report-says/2013/01/11/b5ec843e-5c23-11e2-88d0-c4cf65c3ad15_story.html
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/science/earth/extreme-weather-grows-in-frequency-and-intensity-around-world.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
>
> there are too many more sources, disagreeing only about how much & when
>
> http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/ssi/climate-change-statement-from.pdf
>
> http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2009/01/26/203610/noaa-climate-change-irreversible-1000-years-drought-dust-bowls/
>
> http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/14/1009121/science-of-global-warming-impacts-guide/
>
>
> I don't like it any more than anyone else. We're growers in semi-arid
> Southwest already, retired & hardly able to relocate as it is.
>
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 1/13/2013 at 8:11 AM Aliza Vanderlip wrote:
>
> > I dont think that buying land just in case is a wise choice. By the
> > time the "just in case" rolls around, you would need to already have
> > your
> > sustainable systems in place KWIM? I am not a prepper but I do have
> > a
> > small dairy farm and my goal is sustainability. This years goal is
> > to
> > acquire an old non pto seed drill and learn how to grow barley for
> > fodder
> > and straw. I already use barley fodder in my feeding system but I am
> > purchasing the barley. Next year it will be to get a small baler -
> > alternatively we can pay/trade our neighbor to bale for us. We are
> > planning water storage - currently I can pump out of the creek but I
> > want
> > rainwater instead because I have lots of roof runoff at the barn
> > (building
> > is 120' long). We will be putting in a Rocket Mass Heater this
> > summer in
> > the house - these are really cool by the way - and solar water heating
> > for
> > floor heat and as a preheater as well..... All these things take
> > time.Â
> > And you have to live on
> > a place for a while before you know what it is asking for and what
> > your
> > real needs are. Not the needs that come with you from the city, but
> > your
> > real yearnings that only come from being on the land and seeing where
> > your
> > heat leads you.... Will also put in a greenhouse this late summer.Â
> > What do you love? do you love to garden? Do you love to spin?Â
> > Having
> > a useful skill that is barterable but that you really dont enjoy will
> > not
> > be the difference that makes the difference. First you have to know
> > what
> > you are drawn to. For that you have to experience many many
> > things..... I actually dont think that there will be a huge tragic
> > thing
> > to prep for other then what is huge and tragic where you live - in my
> > area
> > that would be wildfire, drought and flooding. They are expecting an
> > earthquake some decade. It may be damaging.Â
>
> Books that I like - I
> > have heard that Harveys new poultry book is great though I have not
> > purchased it yet. - His website is very very helpful and I would for
> > sure
> > go there first - www.themodernhomestead.us - Square Foot Gardening if
> > you
> > are just learning about growing food, or lasagna gardening are great
> > choices to start with. Strawbale house or cob house depending on
> > your
> > climate. Google is your friend. If you are on Facebook there is a
> > wonderful list - grow food not lawns that has lots and lots of
> > pictures of
> > what people are doing with their gardens/houses - it is inspiring.Â
> > So if
> > you are inspired to go to the country then go to the country and be
> > inspired. You can have a piece of paradise where ever you are (city,
> > country, and at sea) as long as you feel inspired - get to know
> > yourself
> > first and what you love and draws you to it - and go there......Â
>
>
> Â
> Blessings,
>
>
> Aliza
> www.SomeKindaWonderfulFarm.com
> Ashland,
> > Oregon
>
>
>
>
> “Don’t ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
> > alive, and go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have
> > come
> > alive.”  Howard Thurman
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Lori
> > <bakequery@aol.com>
> To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Saturday,
> > January 12, 2013 4:57 AM
> Subject: [Livingontheland] Prepping
>
>
> My husband
> > and I are thinking about getting some land to have if things fall
> > apart.Â
> > I was wondering if everyone in the group would collectively put
> > together
> > a list of essential things/tools/knowledge/etc. one would need during
> > tough economic times. We are also wondering what we could learn to
> > do
> > that would either be a skill or produce a product that we could barter
> > for.Â
>
> I know there are books about these things but I'd love to hear
> > what all of you are thinking.
>
> How much land would we need? What states
> > at this moment, have the most living (freedom)Â and good growing
> > climates?
> Â
> We suspect that our daughter, her husband, and their three
> > children, 8, 5, and 3, would live with us and possibly our son.
>
> Lori
> >
> Phoenixville,
> > PA
> Â
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