Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[tradingpost@lobo.net]

Useful & constructive info there. I will comment on the no "huge tragic 
thing
to prep for" tho. Climate change is one thing that's not a "maybe" or 
far off possibility. It's here now & certain to get much worse in our 
time, & now no major scientific organization on earth disputes the fact. 
Trouble is we really can't predict exact effects in specific regions for 
the most part (coastal areas are toast).

These 2 articles are the more optimistic of many & not much of a guide

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/climate-change-underway-in-us-report-says/2013/01/11/b5ec843e-5c23-11e2-88d0-c4cf65c3ad15_story.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/science/earth/extreme-weather-grows-in-frequency-and-intensity-around-world.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

there are too many more sources, disagreeing only about how much & when

http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/ssi/climate-change-statement-from.pdf

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2009/01/26/203610/noaa-climate-change-irreversible-1000-years-drought-dust-bowls/

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/14/1009121/science-of-global-warming-impacts-guide/


I don't like it any more than anyone else. We're growers in semi-arid 
Southwest already, retired & hardly able to relocate as it is.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net


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On 1/13/2013 at 8:11 AM Aliza Vanderlip wrote:

> I dont think that buying land just in case is a wise choice.  By the
> time the "just in case" rolls around, you would need to already have 
> your
> sustainable systems in place KWIM?  I am not a prepper but I do have 
> a
> small dairy farm and my goal is sustainability.  This years goal is 
> to
> acquire an old non pto seed drill and learn how to grow barley for 
> fodder
> and straw.  I already use barley fodder in my feeding system but I am
> purchasing the barley.  Next year it will be to get a small baler -
> alternatively we can pay/trade our neighbor to bale for us.  We are
> planning water storage - currently I can pump out of the creek but I 
> want
> rainwater instead because I have lots of roof runoff at the barn 
> (building
> is 120' long).  We will be putting in a Rocket Mass Heater this 
> summer in
> the house - these are really cool by the way - and solar water heating 
> for
> floor heat and as a preheater as well.....  All these things take 
> time. 
> And you have to live on
> a place for a while before you know what it is asking for and what 
> your
> real needs are.  Not the needs that come with you from the city, but 
> your
> real yearnings that only come from being on the land and seeing where 
> your
> heat leads you....  Will also put in a greenhouse this late summer. 
> What do you love?  do you love to garden?  Do you love to spin?  
> Having
> a useful skill that is barterable but that you really dont enjoy will 
> not
> be the difference that makes the difference.  First you have to know 
> what
> you are drawn to.  For that you have to experience many many
> things.....  I actually dont think that there will be a huge tragic 
> thing
> to prep for other then what is huge and tragic where you live - in my 
> area
> that would be wildfire, drought and flooding.  They are expecting an
> earthquake some decade.  It may be damaging. 

Books that I like - I
> have heard that Harveys new poultry book is great though I have not
> purchased it yet. - His website is very very helpful and I would for 
> sure
> go there first - www.themodernhomestead.us - Square Foot Gardening if 
> you
> are just learning about growing food, or lasagna gardening are great
> choices to start with.  Strawbale house or cob house depending on 
> your
> climate.  Google is your friend.  If you are on Facebook there is a
> wonderful list - grow food not lawns that has lots and lots of 
> pictures of
> what people are doing with their gardens/houses - it is inspiring.  
> So if
> you are inspired to go to the country then go to the country and be
> inspired.  You can have a piece of paradise where ever you are (city,
> country, and at sea) as long as you feel inspired - get to know 
> yourself
> first and what you love and draws you to it - and go there...... 


 
Blessings,


Aliza
www.SomeKindaWonderfulFarm.com
Ashland,
> Oregon




“Don’t ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
> alive, and go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have 
> come
> alive.”  Howard Thurman


________________________________
 From: Lori
> <bakequery@aol.com>
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Saturday,
> January 12, 2013 4:57 AM
Subject: [Livingontheland] Prepping


My husband
> and I are thinking about getting some land to have if things fall 
> apart. 
> I was wondering if everyone in the group would collectively put 
> together
> a list of essential things/tools/knowledge/etc. one would need during
> tough economic times.  We are also wondering what we could learn to 
> do
> that would either be a skill or produce a product that we could barter
> for. 

I know there are books about these things but I'd love to hear
> what all of you are thinking.

How much land would we need?  What states
> at this moment, have the most living (freedom)Â and good growing
> climates?
 
We suspect that our daughter, her husband, and their three
> children, 8, 5, and 3, would live with us and possibly our son.

Lori
>
Phoenixville,
> PA
 
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