Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>]

You are of course right Paul. I was in a hurry and did not want to write a 
long mail. Watching television does not help young people either or the 
spread of gmo's. Another thing is the persistence of many human made 
poisons. For example, up to twenty years ago we had large numbers of wood 
pigeons here in large flocks of over 50 individuals. Then a neighbor planted 
barley with of course poisoned seed grain. The wood pigeon population 
crashed and has not recovered twenty years later. The largest group you see 
these days is about five.
And that is the stupidity of the health care budget. Big Pharma made sure 
that only their favorite drugs are used and approved and those of us who 
have been using alternative methods such as vitamin D know for a fact that 
you don't need flue vaccination to stay healthy. Seems that the latest batch 
of flue vaccine 2010 leads to more seizures than normal in children by the 
way (as the Australians who are now entering their winter are finding out) 
but it has nevertheless been approved already by the FDA for use in the US.
john

> I agree, and at this point so would Borlaug. He said as much. And about 
> young people in general, and the "sixth extinction" already in progress. 
> Those degenerative diseases eat up two thirds of our total health care 
> budget, but are almost unknown in much of the world's "undeveloped" 
> regions. IMHO it's more than loss of crop nutrition, it's the slow 
> poisoning in the processed corporate food industry. Vitamins and fiber 
> processed out, transfats, hydrogenated oils, MSG, added salt and sugar 
> processed in. No wonder.
>
> I don't want to get too far out on a limb here, but it's almost like 
> Mother Nature is starting to fight back for all our depredations. Lovelock 
> and Dr. Lynn Margulis brought up the idea that Gaia is a whole living 
> organism simply reacting to unnatural disturbance in the order of things.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis#The_Revenge_of_Gaia
>
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
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>
> On 8/1/2010 at 10:27 PM John D'hondt wrote:
>
> > We know all that Paul and so what? What Borlaug did was make agriculture
> > "the conversion of oil into food through the means of land" Since there
> > was
> > plenty of cheap oil that worked well but there was a price to pay...
> >
> > Since the start of the green revolution the world has lost an awful lot of
> > soil and the nutrition in crops has dropped dramatically leading to a
> > plentiful but diseased population. I have been hosting wwoofers here for a
> > few years and am amazed at how weak, uncoordinated and generally incapable
> > of doing work young people have become. That too should be written on
> > Borlaug's slate imo.
> >
> > So what good has the green revolution brought us? Qualitatively a huge
> > disaster but there are now almost 7 billion of us, way above what this
> > planet can carry for long. Do we need another miracle to keep on getting
> > more plentiful? The sixth extinction is churning away as we write and
> > don't
> > forget that the higher we climb the deeper we are going to fall.
> >
> > john
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
> > To: <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:56 AM
> > Subject: [Livingontheland] Peak Food: Can Another Green Revolution Save 
> > Us?
> >
> >
> >
> > Peak Food: Can Another Green Revolution Save Us?
> > http://www.countercurrents.org/arguimbau310710.htm
> > By Nicholas C. Arguimbau  31 July, 2010
>
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