Healthy soil and sustainable growing

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Seems to me we are too clever for our own good and generally lack wisdom. 
Technology is easy, understanding its potential effects is difficult.

---- Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote: 
> 
> I agree, and at this point so would Borlaug. He said as much. And about 
> young people in general, and the "sixth extinction" already in progress. 
> Those degenerative diseases eat up two thirds of our total health care 
> budget, but are almost unknown in much of the world's "undeveloped" 
> regions. IMHO it's more than loss of crop nutrition, it's the slow 
> poisoning in the processed corporate food industry. Vitamins and fiber 
> processed out, transfats, hydrogenated oils, MSG, added salt and sugar 
> processed in. No wonder. 
> 
> I don't want to get too far out on a limb here, but it's almost like Mother 
> Nature is starting to fight back for all our depredations. Lovelock and Dr. 
> Lynn Margulis brought up the idea that Gaia is a whole living organism 
> simply reacting to unnatural disturbance in the order of things. 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis#The_Revenge_of_Gaia
> 
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
> 
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> On 8/1/2010 at 10:27 PM John D'hondt wrote:
> 
> >We know all that Paul and so what? What Borlaug did was make agriculture 
> >"the conversion of oil into food through the means of land" Since there
> >was 
> >plenty of cheap oil that worked well but there was a price to pay...
> >
> >Since the start of the green revolution the world has lost an awful lot of 
> >soil and the nutrition in crops has dropped dramatically leading to a 
> >plentiful but diseased population. I have been hosting wwoofers here for a 
> >few years and am amazed at how weak, uncoordinated and generally incapable 
> >of doing work young people have become. That too should be written on 
> >Borlaug's slate imo.
> >
> >So what good has the green revolution brought us? Qualitatively a huge 
> >disaster but there are now almost 7 billion of us, way above what this 
> >planet can carry for long. Do we need another miracle to keep on getting 
> >more plentiful? The sixth extinction is churning away as we write and
> >don't 
> >forget that the higher we climb the deeper we are going to fall.
> >
> >john
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
> >To: <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:56 AM
> >Subject: [Livingontheland] Peak Food: Can Another Green Revolution Save Us?
> >
> >
> >
> >Peak Food: Can Another Green Revolution Save Us?
> >http://www.countercurrents.org/arguimbau310710.htm
> >By Nicholas C. Arguimbau  31 July, 2010
> >
> 
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