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  • From: dan conine <dconine@bertramwireless.com>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Cities (Astyk's blog)
  • Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:23:10 -0600


From: Smittyctz6 <cityhomesteader@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Cities (Astyk's blog)
To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing
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This is ridiculous and probably from someone that lives on a nice piece of
land bigger than they need..
Yes, it is, and I do. I am working to build it into a community so that others will have work and food when civilization fails.
This is what we have to do? Kill 100,000 people so that a few elite can
survive. I think we need to kill people that feel that way and save the
world from them. out of those 100,000 people 75% will be women and children.
10% will be elderly and the sick.. There is not enough land to support
abandoning the cities.
There is not enough land to support keeping them, either.
This is the internet. Take it with a grain of salt and see the pointlessness of large cities. You were so upset that you misinterpreted the numbers. I didn't say "kill 100,000", I said "kill everything OVER 100,000. In other words, BILLIONS need to go.
Once you start killing, it's hard to stop. Just ask Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld and all of the other Civilized, God Fearing "Freedom" boys that worked so hard to acquire resources and prop up the price of oil for their Texas friends by murdering and poisoning thousands of people (Oh, wait, that was ok because it was 'someplace else' and they 'hated our freedoms').

Solar panels on big buildings: Yeah....THAT'll work. That will provide about 100Kw on a sunny day to a building that uses about 100 times that much energy for air conditioning and pumping and heating water for their hot showers so they can go to work at jobs to sell bigger TVs and more cars.
Most of the people in large cities are there because there are large cities. They have little contribution to the universe other than consumption and shiny, noisy crap. Until they do, you can stuff the high and mighty morality.
What are people FOR? Ask yourself THAT before defending their overconsumptive existence and trying to 'solve' their energy and food issues.
Women and children? OMGawd!! I didn't think of that. Keeping every fuzzy, big-eyed Disney baby calf alive in the barn makes destroying the planet all better now, does it?
The problem
all boils down to greed and avarice in one form or another.
No. The problem boils down to humans consuming more than humans put back into the system as future usefulness. It boils down to religion and government and egos convincing everyone that they are 'special' beings with more worth than the worms in the soil. It boils down to the salt of the earth and the competitive swarms that shove more and more resources into more and more mouths without a conscious awareness of where food comes from, what scale of waste goes on to get it to their precious 'civilized' hives, and what happens to the waste packaging that was produced to 'protect' them from their own overpopulous, chlorine-scrubbed behinds.

You can talk about the 'sustainable growth' and 'sustainable buildings' all you want, but from Nature's point of view, the numbers just don't work. Someone is going to have to die off when TSHTF. I will probably be one of the first; because of all the horrible things you can be in this country, I'm an atheist and I don't buy the morality crap unless it contributes something useful to the future of the planet. The brainwashed masses don't cotton to that kind of thinking. They want absolute Truth from Absolute Power to be holding THEIR chains.

I have faith in that.

Dan








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