Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[Smittyctz6 <cityhomesteader@gmail.com>]

ok  phew!! Sorry sometimes I think the looney's are taking over and more and more people are going insane..
Yeah I would love to have one of those puppies on a small home scale.  I had dreamed about winning the lotary and moving where I can use my money to build a sort of Biosphere village where all waste is reclaimed. Ah dreams..

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:

I took it as hyperbole to make a point, not literally doing away with millions of people. Agree there's much that must and will change in city and country. However, my information so far supports little faith in the economics of solar or hydroponics. Now that http://www.livingmachines.com/ site has a lot of fascinating possibilities. Heard of such things but never came across that site before. The basic idea is recycling scarce resources - like freshwater for example  - and making it work for us in other ways.

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On 1/18/2010 at 10:57 AM Smittyctz6 wrote:

>This is ridiculous and probably from someone that lives on a nice piece of
>land bigger than they need..
>This is what we have to do?  Kill 100,000 people so that a few elite can
>survive. I think we need to kill people that feel that way and save the
>world from them. out of those 100,000 people 75% will be women and
>children.
>10% will be elderly and the sick..   There is not enough land to support
>abandoning the cities.
>Why not make the cities more functional and self sustaining. Heck we do
>have
>the Technology.
>If every huge building within a city could have solar panels installed on
>their roofs and if every telephone pole or tower was turned over to some
>form of wind mill?  There is your energy.. Food can be grown hydroponically
>and fish  with aquaponic's Water Filtration and remediation can be done
>with
>Living Machines!   http://www.livingmachines.com/
>Cities are more sustainable than out lying small holders who take up great
>tracks of land for personal gain with out investing back into society. Take
>all those lands and turn them into real farms to raise Animals for meat
>Naturally.. Not beef, but maybe hybrids that are smaller and use less
>fodder
>to put on meat. Or do away with Red meat and eat more farm raised fish.
>But nah..lets just nuke the cities..  kill millions of people..  The
>problem
>all boils down to greed and avarice in one form or another. The money used
>to support a sustainable life is in the hands of selfs bastards that don't
>give a fly crap for anything but getting richer and they don't care how
>many
>they take down as long as they get to climb over the bodies to reach the
>top
>of the pile..
>
>I got a plan!!  Let's put idiots that write this crap in a cage fatten them
>up and eat them
>
>On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:12 AM, dan conine
><dconine@bertramwireless.com>wrote:
>
>> The defining factor as to whether a city or town is sustainable is it's
>> Net Usefulness. Does the presence of the city or town add value to the
>> farms and villages surrounding it? If it only consumes resources
>> (imported oil, imported food, imported people, imported trinkets) and
>> doesn't provide useful labor or goods above what it consumes, then you
>> should get out. In other words, is there a natural demand for that
>> particular concentration of bodies, or does it simply exist because of
>> inertia and money? Is it a shining inspiration of cooperation or a black
>> hole sucking up everything within its reach?
>>
>> I used to think we should just nuke any city over 100,000 and we would
>> be better off as a country. Sharon thinks 1,000,000 (She doesn't say it
>> that way, but abandoning a city is equivalent to bombing it...). I think
>> most on this list would agree that anything over 1000 or so is probably
>> just a scam to suck value(including youth) away from the land and
>> provide cannon fodder for the war mongers who think there is always
>> another place to steal resources from.
>>
>> I think of cities as giant barns (CHFOs..combined human feeding
>> operations), but nobody in charge seems to understand that they need to
>> cull the herds as long as they get so many government subsidies to keep
>> them operating.
>> Civilization (city-based thinking by definition) and sentience are not
>> all they are cracked up to be. Urbanites (and sub-urbanites and
>> ex-urbanites) think they are smarter than farmers because they have more
>> money. When the money is worthless, they demand that they be taken care
>> of by the farmers or the mobs band together and chain the farmers up.
>> When is the Farmers' Union going to call for a 'preventive war'? How
>> about a "1 Percent Doctrine"?
>> Sure, we can imagine peaceable rural and semi-rural areas where we feed
>> our neighbors and help each other survive the coming Imperial Collapse,
>> but the vast chasm between 1,000,000 people per square mile and .5
>> people per square mile is going to be a problem unless cannibalism
>> becomes fashionable again.
>>
>> Dan C
>>
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