Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[Debbie Mcdonald <belynor@sbcglobal.net>]

It is not mild here now, SOMETHING happened:O. It is miserably cold for man 
and beast. I put sweatshirts on the goats. And it is dragging on and really, 
it's been a lot of freezing nights for this early in the winter, many :(  I'm 
off to tote hot water from the house for the goats to warm up their drink so 
they don't get dehydrated. Thank you for the links. I am sorry so dense but 
how did you know the time to pick the Charontais, by smell or did you have to 
cut into them.  

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:

> From: Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
> Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Seed resources Re: Tomatoes
> To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 9:25 AM
> 
> I'm not 100% certain. I got the original seed five years
> ago and saved seed since, and as I recall either http://www.gourmetseed.com 
> or http://www.italianseedandtool.com/ had them back then
> Since starting them I've wondered if they were actually
> Costoluto Fiorentino which is less ribbed. But now you can
> find them at 
> http://www.seedsofchange.com/garden_center/product_details.aspx?item_no=PS10987
> or several less known companies if you google costoluto
> genovese seed. 
> 
> I was growing in NE TX until ten years ago and miss the
> milder winters there with eight month growing season. The
> only problem I have with Charontais is the very narrow
> window for harvesting to get that incredible fragrance. Like
> maybe a day or two. 
> 
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On 1/10/2010 at 7:02 AM Debbie Mcdonald wrote:
> 
> >I didn't see Genovese in Baker Creeks catalogue. Where
> do you get them? 
> >I ate some of the most delightful tomatoes this summer
> at a farm an hour
> >east of here. They were, I think, green and yellow
> striped? and I imagine
> >would be called a grape tomatoe. Do any of you think
> you might know of
> >these and where to get the seeds. She is all organic so
> it would have been
> >organic seed I imagine. 
> >I have the Charontais melons seed s but did not get any
> garden space ready
> >in time for this last year so I still have them. I'm in
> TX, north so any
> >advice for growing them? 
> >I bought the books Edible Forest Gardens? two volumes
> but they are still
> >packed. I have alot of woods, big mature trees not
> dense small ones and
> >there are a few areas with springs so any ideas as to
> crops that might
> >work in partial sun to mottled to full shade would be
> very appreciated.   
> >
> >--- On Fri, 1/8/10, Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Seed resources Re:
> Tomatoes
> >> To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:02 PM
> >> 
> >> I agree on the Charontais melon. But it has such a
> narrow
> >> harvesting window to keep its fragrance. One guy
> wanted to
> >> buy all we had. But we only had two. We wanted the
> more
> >> globe shaped Genovese because it would sell
> better. 
> >> 
> >> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
> >> 
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> >> 
> >> On 1/7/2010 at 11:54 PM Pego Rice wrote:
> >> 
> >> >Trying to develope your own Tradingpost
> Tomater?
> >> > 
> >> >Hehe.  Well, Gourmet is ine of the few that
> sell
> >> Charontais Melon, which
> >> >is one of the best ever.  My yard has
> recently
> >> undergone a major climate
> >> >change.  I am hoping this will mean I can
> grow these,
> >> finally.
> >> > 
> >> >Yours, Pego
> >> 
> >> 
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