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- From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
- To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen
- Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:36:55 -0700
Well said. I like that minimizing your Gross income while maximizing your
Net income. The more we spend and charge the more we have to earn to keep
up, like squirrels running in a cage. Those who can get their expenses low
enough can make little enough to avoid (most) taxes and still live
comfortably. And about newspapers and TV - nothing but a way to deliver an
audience to the advertisers. Absolutely nothing more. Today too few know
how to grow any food, and even fewer have the knowhow to build anything
approaching a liveable house. Witness all the clueless talk on some lists
about cob and strawbale, yet nothing gets built that people actually live
in any length of time (unless it's a custom strawbale $300,000 and up). I'm
on a *lot* of lists and have yet to see anything about building liveable
houses on the cheap. Even the gardening lists rarely say anything about
growing food on the cheap. Everything except what most people are going to
really need.
paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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On 12/29/2007 at 12:30 PM Dan Conine wrote:
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>You WON'T hear about them from any newpaper dependent upon advertising.
>It's just not good business to tell people not to patronize your clients.
>Just as you won't get the real stories about the news from newpapers.
>Newspapers are in business to sell advertising and to make a profit for
>the people who are the root cause of almost every major issue. As much
>as we (and the talking heads) like to say that newswriters are a
>left-leaning bunch (look at who became writers in YOUR high school
>class...), they are handcuffed to debt as we all are, and must pay the
>bills.
>
>Simplicity movements will continue to rely upon person-to-person and
>internet as long as the 'free' market determines the news. Money
>gravitates toward money, and authority preaches Blind Faith in
>authority. The end result is Blind Faith in moneyed authority, and
>Moneyed Authority tells people to work hard, spend their money and pay
>their taxes 'for the Economy'. If they don't have enough money, then
>they are not working hard enough yet.
>
>Growing your own food, building your own simple house, minimizing your
>Gross income while maximizing your Net income, getting rid of your extra
>vehicles and appliances, minimizing your consumption to your comfort
>level: these are things that scare the HELL out of those who want to
>control every penny and every minute of your life.
>
>Dan
>Belgium,WI
>
>
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Re: [Livingontheland] that came out of the ground
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Re: [Livingontheland] that came out of the ground,
Liz, 12/27/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] that came out of the ground, Ken Hargesheimer, 12/27/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] that came out of the ground, yarrow, 12/27/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] that came out of the ground,
Liz, 12/27/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] that came out of the ground, pete, 12/28/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen, Phil Bunch, 12/27/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen,
Liz, 12/27/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen,
yarrow, 12/27/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen, Liz, 12/27/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen,
yarrow, 12/27/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen,
Dan Conine, 12/29/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen,
TradingPostPaul, 12/29/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen, E. E. Mitchamore Jr, 12/29/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen,
E. E. Mitchamore Jr, 12/29/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen, TradingPostPaul, 12/29/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] Derrick Jensen,
TradingPostPaul, 12/29/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] that came out of the ground,
Liz, 12/27/2007
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