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- From: "Ryan Albinger" <ryalbinger@earthlink.net>
- To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss
- Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:49:27 -0500
I'll respond to the comment on resistance from organic farmers. I got some
literature on a oilseed processing/ biodiesel system costing around $7500
similarily sized unit as you mentioned. And I got to thinking about why in
the world I would process $20 a bushel soybeans to make biodiesel and have
leftover mash. Well, I came to the conclusion, I could. On-farm I'd be
able to grow the soybeans, fuel my tractors with biodiesel, and feed or
sell the soybean meal at organic prices. And I could theoretically make
more money doing so and be more enviromentally friendly. A win-win for the
enviroment and me. Addtionally soybeans work into rotation well.
I am learning more about the system before I proceed.
Ryan
> [Original Message]
> From: Keith Addison <gha@journeytoforever.org>
> I must admit I'm a little puzzled by the quite widespread resistance
> to sustainable biofuels among organics people. After all it's the
> same issue. How can biofuels be sustainable if they're not grown
> sustainably? And which crop cannot be grown sustainably? Conversely,
> how can organic growing be sustainable if it's still plugged into the
> fossil-fuel energy system when it could so easily be independent, via
> air, fire, water, and, most certainly, earth. Off-topic on a soils
> list? Well, if you insist, and of course I'll defer and desist after
> this reply.
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Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss
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Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss,
TradingPostPaul, 04/29/2006
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Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss,
Keith Addison, 04/30/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss, TradingPostPaul, 04/30/2006
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Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss,
Robert Norsen, 04/30/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss, TradingPostPaul, 04/30/2006
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Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss,
Keith Addison, 04/30/2006
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Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss,
Robert Norsen, 04/29/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss, Keith Addison, 04/30/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss, Tom Chapin, 04/30/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss, Mark Nagel, 04/29/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss, Mark Nagel, 04/29/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss, Ryan Albinger, 04/30/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss, Ryan Albinger, 04/30/2006
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Re: [Livingontheland] Ethanol a net energy loss,
TradingPostPaul, 04/29/2006
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