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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet
- From: "Tanner Lovelace" <clubjuggler AT gmail.com>
- To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet
- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:16:56 -0400
On 7/25/07, Phillip Rhodes <mindcrime AT cpphacker.co.uk> wrote:
> You're looking at it. Who else provides broadband around here?
Intrex
Uses Bellsouth (except in Durham where it uses Verizon)
Speakeasy
Uses Bellsouth (except in Durham where it uses Verizon)
Bellsouth
Not available in Durham. Verizon is instead.
Clearwire
Slow, unreliable. (Yes, I've used it.)
Hughes Satellite
Requires a phone for uplink. Cuts out whenever there's a rainstorm.
(The summer camp my wife has worked out for the last 3 years
used this 2 years ago.)
Wild Blue Satellite
Does not require a phone for uplink. Does everything over the
satellite and as such has HORRIBLE latency. As a result, most
VPNs and VoIP doesn't work. Cuts out whenever there's a rainstorm.
(The summer camp my wife has worked out for the last two years
has used this for the last two years.)
Time Warner Cable
Works well, *IF* you're in a good area. I'm in a brand new neighborhood
so I get fairly good service. But, if you want something like a static
IP you *must* get "business service" and pay out the wazoo. Even
residential can be fairly pricey.
maybe others that I'm not aware of...
There are really only two non-radio options: TWC and Bellsouth (or Verizon
if you're in Durham county). *Everyone* else who offers DSL goes through
either Bellsouth or Verizon and are restricted by what they can get from
them (often hobbled by them).
Of the radio based options, there's "Clearwire", which is fairly new and
in my experience somewhat unreliable. (We had them as a sponsor for
the big (as in 2000 people) geocaching event at the fairgrounds over
memorial day.) and there's satellite. Any satellite based system is
going to be severely hobbled by latency and as a result will cause major
problems with VPNs and VoIP. We use Vonage, so that's a deal breaker
for us.
Also, no one's mentioned it yet, so I will. DSL from Verizon in Durham blows
chunks. Unless you're sitting on the CO, speeds suck and cost way too much.
So, that basically leaves TWC as the only viable option. That sounds like
a monopoly in effect, even if it isn't one by the FCC's definition. I suppose
I could do without, but, um, no.
Cheers,
Tanner
--
Tanner Lovelace
clubjuggler at gmail dot com
http://wtl.wayfarer.org/
(fieldless) In fess two roundels in pale, a billet fesswise and an
increscent, all sable.
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet
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- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, Andrew C. Oliver, 07/25/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, tkarches AT imapmail.org, 07/25/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Phillip Rhodes, 07/24/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Cristóbal Palmer, 07/24/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Phillip Rhodes, 07/25/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Cristóbal Palmer, 07/25/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, Phillip Rhodes, 07/25/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, Cristóbal Palmer, 07/25/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, Andrew C. Oliver, 07/25/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, Andrew C. Oliver, 07/25/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, Tanner Lovelace, 07/25/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Cristóbal Palmer, 07/25/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Phillip Rhodes, 07/25/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Cristóbal Palmer, 07/24/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Andrew C. Oliver, 07/25/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Phillip Rhodes, 07/25/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Andrew C. Oliver, 07/25/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, Magnus, 07/25/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet, Andrew C. Oliver, 07/25/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Andrew C. Oliver, 07/25/2007
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[internetworkers] libertarian nutrition,
Thomas Beckett, 07/26/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] libertarian nutrition, Phillip Rhodes, 07/26/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] libertarian nutrition, Andrew C. Oliver, 07/26/2007
- Re: [internetworkers] libertarian nutrition, Thomas Beckett, 07/26/2007
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Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet,
Phillip Rhodes, 07/25/2007
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