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  • From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoliver AT buni.org>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] N.C. Bill Limiting Municipal Internet
  • Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:03:15 -0400

Cristóbal Palmer wrote:
On 7/24/07, Phillip Rhodes <mindcrime AT cpphacker.co.uk> wrote:
For all the ranting and raving against time-warner, their network
fills my needs very adequately and for a reasonable price. Would more
bandwidth be nice? Sure, but who wouldn't say that. And quite simply,
we are not all entitled to service that fulfills our every whim.

You lost me here. Who said anything about being entitled? This is
about rational people wanting to have an effect on policy that has
direct consequences in their lives. But let's look at TWC, now that
you mention it:

(1) TWC is my only option for something that resembles "broadband"
(2) TWC is not providing me true broadband (I get about 5M down, 512K
up even though I'm paying the extra $10 for 8M/1M)
(3) TWC routinely has problems that cause me to lose connectivity.
(4) TWC is owned by a company that has an interest in what comes across my
wire.


WTF, I don't get anywhere NEAR that.

did I mention TWC is my only option? How is having one for-profit
option better than having one city-run option? Before anyone suggests
Bellsouth (my other "option"), let me point out that you should google
for "cozy duopoly".

Are you really trying to say "let the market decide?" Because if
that's what you're saying, then you're essentially saying "Let the big
companies screw individuals and small businesses over, consequently
driving even more innovation and business overseas.


Well and he's not proposing a working alternative "private cooops" okay...what does this look like? Where do I sign up? I already have enough work to do so I want to sign up and get served. The demand is there. I'll take the like $80/mo I'm paying time warner for not quite a meg down and less than a quarter up (I've called...they don't care). I don't live in sticksville, I'm 10 minutes from 9th street, 5 minutes from a bar. And I want to have the democratic right to vote in my local government for municipal infrastructure if I want to. If Phil wants to vote that down in his, fine. Infrastructure and public investment (predominantly in Education) made the Triangle area. If you don't like being "forced" to pay taxes for that then rural Alabama or Mississippi is for you baby!

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