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[Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT gmail.com>]

there is a  difference?

(now to take a page from the debates)

let me first step back to my last post and apologize for my
misstatements (lies? well, i guess, yes) on intel. if i had thought
about it, i would have remembered that the intel on the "yellowcake"
came from overseas. and if i had done a little work, or been more
involved/aware in the past, I would have known about tenet, but
anyway...

what really is the difference between saying that he told america
something that was untrue and saying he lied? does it depend on if he
did or did not know it was untrue?

~ian


On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:45:50 -0400, David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com> 
wrote:
> On 10/20/04 11:17 AM, "Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com> wrote:
> 
> >> what he wanted and the reasons given were untrue. A calculated risk?
> >
> > Perhaps.  I don't *know* that Bush didn't lie anymore than anyone else 
> > here
> > *knows* that he did lie.  We could go in circles forever on this.
> >
> > Here is an interesting article though on the dangers and difficulties of
> > politics and intelligence.  Sounds like Clinton was convinced Sadaam had
> > WMD's as well although I'm sure you guys will explain to me that Bush 
> > simply
> > infiltrated Tenet before Clinton appointed him.  :)
> >
> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-01-27-burkee_x.htm
> >
> > "When Clinton was here recently," Barroso told a Portuguese news service,
> > "he told me he was absolutely convinced, given his years in the White 
> > House
> > and the access to privileged information which he had, that Iraq possessed
> > weapons of mass destruction until the end of the Saddam regime."
> 
> Can we agree that Bush's assertions on Iraqi WMD's were untrue (different
> from a lie)?
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
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