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  • From: Phillip Rhodes <mindcrime AT cpphacker.co.uk>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Re: Raleigh City Council USA PATRIOT Act Resolution Update
  • Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 20:58:51 -0500

James Dasher wrote:


I don't like wiretaps or other infringements on my privacy, either.


My personal opinion, and I'm not alone on this, is that the 5th and
10th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution do establish the right to
privacy, even if it's not explicitly spelled out. Many people
argue that if the right to privacy was so important, why wasn't
it put in as a separate Amendment... my belief is that the Founding
Fathers believed that right to be so "self-evident" that there was
no need to spell it out.


Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? (To revisit a recent joke....)


Here's a pretty good analysis of some parts of the Patriot Act,
from Epic:

http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/

and here's another good review of it:

http://www.independent.org/tii/news/030915ONeil.html


There's other stuff too. Like the ability to arrest and imprison
someone without telling them what the charges are against them,
and the ability to hold them (as far as I can tell) more or less
indefinitely... as long as they're suspected of "terrorism." (this may
only apply to immigrants... or maybe it's everybody, I'm not 100%
clear on that aspect myself).

Disclaimer: I haven't sat down and read the entire thing (It's something like 342 pages, IIRC, of legalese and cross references to other documents) so I'm only familiar with bits and pieces of it, and could be wrong about any specific point.


TTYL,

Phil



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