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  • From: "Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com>
  • To: "'Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/'" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: [internetworkers] fury over WTC ads
  • Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:46:48 -0500

david you would make an excellent politician. you still dodge the question.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> Of David R.Matusiak
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:44 PM
> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] fury over WTC ads
>
> On Mar 5, 2004, at 2:29 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
>
> > ok, i get what you are saying. don't agree.
>
> the only thing i can extrapolate from this is that you are
> the type of person who wants things to remain exactly as they
> are. i.e. "things are fine right now, it ain't broke, so
> don't go a fixin' it."
>
> > i'm not referencing an example such as helms voting against civil
> > rights. its perfectly logical to compare the two campaigns.
>
> so, if a candidate had their competition "eliminated"
> sometime in the past 100 years, it would be "okay" for one to
> do it present day?
>
> > the real question is whether or not you thought it was wrong of FDR.
>
> i don't know FDR. i've never worked with FDR. i never even
> voted for FDR. but i can tell you without question, George
> W. Bush is no FDR.
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: David R. Matusiak
> >> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:25 PM
> >> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> >> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] fury over WTC ads
> >>
> >> my point is that the world was an enormously different
> place way back
> >> when. i'm sure we could spend all week drudging up stuff from
> >> by-gone eras to attempt to "support" our points, but for the most
> >> part it is all useless.
> >>
> >> it is the past. let it go. we are expected to be a much more
> >> sophisticated group of individuals these days (like it or not) and
> >> trying to win arguments with "Well, this is how Jesus did it." or
> >> "This is how FDR did it." holds no water.
> >>
> >> that bucket is broke.
> >>
> >> On Mar 5, 2004, at 2:14 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> >>
> >>> what? i don't get your point.
> >>> this campaign button is precisely the same as the bush ads.
> >>> is this button heinous, disgusting, trampling of victims for
> >>> political gain?
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: David R.Matusiak
> >>>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:12 PM
> >>>> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> >>>> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] fury over WTC ads
> >>>>
> >>>> so, are we back to 1940? should we take away voting rights from
> >>>> Blacks and women now? is regression the best possible path from
> >>>> here?
> >>>>
> >>>> progress happens. either learn to adapt or get crushed
> in its path.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 5, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> it's an interesting focus. blocking official
> investigations into
> >>>>>> what the upper levels of the administration knew (or
> didn't know)
> >>>>>> prior to the attacks?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I feel pretty confident the Roosevelt administration would have
> >>>>> blocked what was known about Japan two and half years
> after Pearl
> >>>>> Harbor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Speaking of FDR. Is this heinous? Is this cheap
> political gain?
> >>>>> <http://wwiimuseum.com/images/TourPictures/08a_Roosevelt-
> >>>>> plaque_lge.jpg>
>
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