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["Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com>]

david you would make an excellent politician.  you still dodge the question.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org 
> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf 
> Of David R.Matusiak
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:44 PM
> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] fury over WTC ads
> 
> On Mar 5, 2004, at 2:29 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> 
> > ok, i get what you are saying.  don't agree.
> 
> the only thing i can extrapolate from this is that you are 
> the type of person who wants things to remain exactly as they 
> are.  i.e. "things are fine right now, it ain't broke, so 
> don't go a fixin' it."
> 
> > i'm not referencing an example such as helms voting against civil 
> > rights.  its perfectly logical to compare the two campaigns.
> 
> so, if a candidate had their competition "eliminated" 
> sometime in the past 100 years, it would be "okay" for one to 
> do it present day?
> 
> > the real question is whether or not you thought it was wrong of FDR.
> 
> i don't know FDR.  i've never worked with FDR.  i never even 
> voted for FDR.  but i can tell you without question, George 
> W. Bush is no FDR.
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: David R. Matusiak
> >> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:25 PM
> >> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> >> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] fury over WTC ads
> >>
> >> my point is that the world was an enormously different 
> place way back 
> >> when.  i'm sure we could spend all week drudging up stuff from 
> >> by-gone eras to attempt to "support" our points, but for the most 
> >> part it is all useless.
> >>
> >> it is the past.  let it go.  we are expected to be a much more 
> >> sophisticated group of individuals these days (like it or not) and 
> >> trying to win arguments with "Well, this is how Jesus did it."  or 
> >> "This is how FDR did it."  holds no water.
> >>
> >> that bucket is broke.
> >>
> >> On Mar 5, 2004, at 2:14 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> >>
> >>> what?  i don't get your point.
> >>> this campaign button is precisely the same as the bush ads.
> >>> is this button heinous, disgusting, trampling of victims for 
> >>> political gain?
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: David R.Matusiak
> >>>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:12 PM
> >>>> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> >>>> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] fury over WTC ads
> >>>>
> >>>> so, are we back to 1940?  should we take away voting rights from 
> >>>> Blacks and women now?  is regression the best possible path from 
> >>>> here?
> >>>>
> >>>> progress happens.  either learn to adapt or get crushed 
> in its path.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 5, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> it's an interesting focus.  blocking official 
> investigations into 
> >>>>>> what the upper levels of the administration knew (or 
> didn't know) 
> >>>>>> prior to the attacks?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I feel pretty confident the Roosevelt administration would have 
> >>>>> blocked what was known about Japan two and half years 
> after Pearl 
> >>>>> Harbor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Speaking of FDR.  Is this heinous?  Is this cheap 
> political gain?
> >>>>> <http://wwiimuseum.com/images/TourPictures/08a_Roosevelt-
> >>>>> plaque_lge.jpg>
> 
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