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[Diana Duncan <art2mis AT nc.rr.com>]

On Thursday, Feb 5, 2004, at 21:11 US/Eastern, Tom Boucher wrote:

> On Feb 5, 2004, at 4:26 PM, childers.paula AT epamail.epa.gov wrote:
> > palls me to think our great nation has sunk to even PROPOSING this
> > kind of prejudice & pandering; no Western democracy has codified such
> > blatant discrimination into their Constitution or foundation of law,
> > only places like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or some little
> > hypersuperstitious backwater in Africa.
> >
> > pissed and wanting my equal rights,
> > Paula
>
> I feel that this is nothing more than going for the conservative vote 
> in 2004.
>
> just wait, during debates 'family values' and such will be tossed 
> around to show how much the democrats are god hating commies.

At least as far as I've heard, the Dems are also drawing some sort of 
distinction between civil unions and marriage.  Certainly Kerry, 
Edwards and Dean have all said they believe that marriage is between a 
man and a woman.  I just completely fail to see the logic.  I also find 
it sad that nowhere have I read or heard of anyone in the news media 
pointing out the fundamental illogic of all the arguments against gay 
marriage so far.  I guess that as soon as anyone mentions "religion", 
all questions of logic go out the window anyway.

So, all replies so far simply add to the point - marriage as it is 
practiced today in a legal sense has NOTHING to do with religion in 
this country.  So why is this the argument so often brought up (by both 
sides) as to why they oppose gay marriage?

I don't think I'll get an answer that makes sense, because it just 
plain doesn't.  I was just wondering if I was missing some point that 
made it make sense.  :)

Diana

(pissed and wanting everyone's equal rights)

Hey, by the way...isn't the Republican party supposed to be the 
"state's rights" party?  Up until now, it has always been up to the 
individual states to legislate marriage any way they see fit.  When it 
was illegal in Mississippi to marry inter-racially, I don't believe 
that state was required to recognize a couple legally married in New 
York.  Different states have different legal ages for marriage, too.  
So the true Republican should let the individual states set the laws.