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[David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com>]

When it comes to shopping on eBay, if the deal seems too good to be true, it
probably is. I understand this is especially true when it comes to notebook
computers. I would run, and not walk away from anyone with a free email
address.

My personal philosophy for shopping on eBay is the same as the stock
market--don't spend/invest any more than you can afford to throw away.

david

On 3/18/03 1:16 PM, "Josep L. Guallar-Esteve" <jlguallar AT maduixa.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've found a Laptop on eBay [0], at a very interesting price. Now that I got
> the info to do the bank wire... I did some research on Google about the
> banking info and I found some information related to the payment method.
> 
> It uses a payment method through WebMoney  [1]  I've never heard of it, but
> I've never shopped before on ebay anyway. It looks like this is a secure
> payment method . But, again, I don't know.
> 
> Then, I found the payment method (same account) mentioned in several sites 
> [2]
> - online gaming (StarCraft) on Russia [2a]
> - increasing your "russian manliness" [2b]
> - Scammers on Russian brides agencies [2c]
> 
> They told me that they are based on Spain (of all places!) but their email
> address is from a free email provider that i never heard of  [3a], when 
> there
> are many and well-known free email services in Spain [3b]
> 
> The cost of shipping is lower than expected. I won't complain about it. But
> I've checked the weight for the laptop in it's original box (Amazon) and 
> that
> weight makes the shipping on both DHL[4a] and UPS [4b] is about  $170. And
> it's a bulky thing (I expect it to be), so it will probably be a little 
> more.
> But the price goes up for  only ~$100 from the selling price.
> 
> I don't know. Maybe I'm too paranoid (I'm a sysadmin after all). Maybe this 
> is
> a proper way of doing business. Or maybe this is too good pice and it's a
> scam.
> 
> If you want to comment me on this by private email or through the list or
> both, great. I can provide the original emails if needed or any other
> information.
> 
> 
> 
> Salut,
> Josep
> 
> 
> [0]
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3406415096
> 
> [1] 
> - WebMoney:
> http://www.wmtransfer.com/
> http://www.webmoney.ru/
> 
> [2a]
> http://www.broodwar.com/
> http://www.wgtour.com/news.php?idN=707&datab=broodwar
> http://forum.starcraft.org.ru/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3412&FORUM_ID=43&CAT_ID=1&For
> um_Title=%CD%EE%E2%EE%F1%F2%E8&Topic_Title=Rulez+Race+Wars
> [2b]
> http://www.good-penis.com/index.php (translation below)
> http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr?url=http%3A//www.good-penis.com/in
> dex.php&lp=ru_en
> [2c]
> http://www.antiscam.org/scammers/Elena_Loveland.shtml
> 
> [3a]
> http://www.adios.net --> http://www.inbox.net/
> [3b]
> http://www.terra.es