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  • From: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org (Gina Norman)
  • Subject: [internetworkers] Please stop
  • Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:37:20 -0500

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Ok, let me make myself clear.

Though I will (adamantly) defend anyone's right to spout his/her opinion
*and* will unequivocally state that _constitutionally_ you have every right
to insult someone however basely and rudely you choose; HOWEVER, I do think
that I have the right (and perhaps even the duty) to _attempt_ to instill
civility. (Maybe it's because I'm a Southerner, but I see no need for
rudeness. Ever.)

Really, it's not that difficult to be civil and it would add a lot to the
tenor of our interactions.

FWIW, I think that the "nature of the list" is something that does (and
should!) come up regularly over time, as it helps us re-think our collective
community.

(Again, my opinion)

-Gina


Gina Norman
Senior Manager, Global Web Governance
ginanorm AT nortelnetworks.com
919-905-4801 (ESN 355)
http://www.nortelnetworks.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Hedemark [mailto:chris AT yonderway.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:26 PM
> To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Please stop
>
>
> > If you disagree with someone you can ignore
> > them, or tell them why you disagree, but telling them to shut up or
> > please stop or that their discussion is utterly useless and
> pointless
> > serves no one except for yourself.
>
> Yup.
>
> Interesting to note that all of the talk revolving around
> "stop" or "cut
> it out" has generated more flying bits than the original offenses.
>
> ---
> Come and play at the InterNetWorkers Web site!
> http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ok, let me make myself clear.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Though I will (adamantly) defend anyone's right to =
spout his/her opinion *and* will unequivocally state that =
_constitutionally_ you have every right to insult someone however =
basely and rudely you choose; HOWEVER, I do think that I have the right =
(and perhaps even the duty) to _attempt_ to instill civility.&nbsp; =
(Maybe it's because I'm a Southerner, but I see no need for =
rudeness.&nbsp; Ever.) </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Really, it's not that difficult to be civil and it =
would add a lot to the tenor of our interactions.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>FWIW, I think that the &quot;nature of the list&quot; =
is something that does (and should!) come up regularly over time, as it =
helps us re-think our collective community.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>(Again, my opinion)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Gina</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gina Norman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Senior Manager, Global Web Governance</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ginanorm AT nortelnetworks.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>919-905-4801 (ESN 355)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://www.nortelnetworks.com"; =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.nortelnetworks.com</A></FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Chris Hedemark [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:chris AT yonderway.com";>mailto:chris AT yonderway.com</A>]</FON=
T>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:26 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Please =
stop</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; If you disagree with someone you can =
ignore</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; them, or tell them why you disagree, but =
telling them to shut up or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; please stop or that their discussion is =
utterly useless and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; pointless</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; serves no one except for yourself.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Yup.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Interesting to note that all of the talk =
revolving around </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &quot;stop&quot; or &quot;cut</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; it out&quot; has generated more flying bits =
than the original offenses.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ---</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Come and play at the InterNetWorkers Web =
site!&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/"; =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; You are currently subscribed to InterNetWorkers =
mailing list</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To unsubscribe visit </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/internetworkers"; =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/internetwork=
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