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- From: Ron Thigpen <rthigpen AT nc.rr.com>
- To: InterNetWorkers <internetworkers AT franklin.metalab.unc.edu>
- Subject: RE: better dead than parasitic
- Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 15:17:55 -0500
dan charlson wrote:
> Oh, goody. More legislation.
Yeah, the same type of legislation that finally mandated seatbelts, airbags, and bumper heights. Forgive my leanings, but I believe there are times when the free market needs a little encouragement in the right direction.
One of the reasons that there are so many of the "hated SUVs" on the road is due to the first go-round of CAFE laws. Those helped eliminate the larger station-wagons and autos
Actually, the misalignment between the Car and Light Truck categories is one of the ills that this new legislation is targeting. The Light Truck category would still be subject to different (lower) CAFE standards, but the standards would be brought closer together, and each would be higher than they are presently. This realignment is being considered at least partly in recognition of the fact that roughly 50% of US personal-use vehicles sales are currently in the Light Truck category. Personally, I see this action as closing an unfortunate loophole in the original law.
Besides that, bigger vehicles ARE safer for their occupants. That's just good ol' basic physics, and there were plenty of Safety Weenies who were concerned about the death-toll impact that the CAFE laws would have:
For some types of accidents, heavier vehicles can be safer for the occupants. Then again, these vehicles are overrepresented in accidents involving rollovers and loss of control. Additionally, they make the roads arguably less safe for occupants of smaller vehicles. And so, in making a choice to drive a heavier vehicle, you have decided that your are willing to marginally improve your safety while reducing that of others. Am I the only one who sees moral implications in this decision?
It's true that you only control your decisions. The idea behind CAFE is to affect the decisions of the many, and to do so fairly.
It is my hope that CAFE standards and fuel prices that more accurately represent the total costs of their use will result in an overall set of market decisions that reduce use of fossil fuels and also the variation in vehicle weights and sizes, making the air and the roads safer for everyone.
Estimates run from 1,300 to 2,600 avoidable deaths a year -- or even higher, according to one study by the center-left Brookings Institution of Washington."
This looks at the result over a range of values for single variable in a complex equation. Factor in the lives saved from lowered air pollution and the production and distribution of fuel and I'd expect a very different result. Never mind the war costs that energy dependency seem to keep foisting on us.
There is also an assumption here that higher fuel efficiency requires a very low vehicle weight. Your source compares a 2,000 lb car with a 4,000 lb car. There just aren't many 2,000 lb cars on the road, that number is a serious outlier. Cars simply wouldn't have to get that light to meet a CAFE standard of 35 mpg. Most compacts and midsize cars fall into the 2,800 to 3,500 lb range. Many cars of this size, even with performance engines, are already getting something like 25-32 mpg EPA highway.
Models engineered specifically for mileage are already doing much better than this. Identical VW models with the TDI engine are getting about 80% greater fuel economy than the same models with their 1.8T engine. No weight given away, no safety lost. (Thanks to the low-sulfur diesel legislation for making these cars cleaner as well as efficient. Look forward to reduced particulate emissions as VW works to satisfy EU legislation.) Honda is a leader in this area, using gasoline engines. No doubt Detroit would be also, if doing so were aligned with their financial interests.
Whatever. I'll just go out and buy an older, non-CAFE vehicle
That's your choice. I only ask that you drive it responsibly, and that you share in the societal costs of burning the fuel required to haul its mass around. My hope is that eventually you would have the opportunity to buy a modern, CAFE compliant vehicle that was every bit as capable and safe.
My choice is to drive an efficient vehicle that meets my cargo and people hauling needs 360 days a year, and rent or borrow on those other days. Frankly I like the way a smaller, lighter car accelerates, stops and handles. That too is simple physics. As a Miata owner, I know you understand. And if my hauling needs increased, I'd probably be looking for an older pickup. I just wouldn't use it for the commute.
--rt
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RE: better dead than parasitic,
pawelka, 03/06/2002
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- RE: better dead than parasitic, dan charlson, 03/06/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, Ron Thigpen, 03/06/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, sovenall, 03/06/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, Maria Winslow, 03/06/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, Bill Geschwind, 03/06/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, Mark Andrews, 03/06/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, Diana Duncan, 03/06/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, Rebecca Board, 03/06/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, Joe Reid, 03/07/2002
- RE: better dead than parasitic, Scott Russell, 03/07/2002
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