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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Does anyone beside me think it is a bit strange that the MILITARY is on 
standby?  I can't ever remember such a hoopla about something like this....
 
No wonder there are rumors flying around that this is a "weaponized" 
version....and that the masses just aren't being told.  Are they discussing 
martial law as a possibility?  If so, makes me wonder if it is a practice 
run..... 
 
 
I try to always have 3-6 months of food on hand, even if some of the meals 
would be a bit odd (unbalanced or strange combos) under real "lock down" 
circumstances.  Finally have 1 of 3 others convinced to do the same...  
Learned in hurricanes that those who prepare ahead of time aren't part of the 
big panic last minute fighting & shoving crowd that causes problems.  (People 
up north probably see the same thing around ice storm warnings or major snow 
blizzards.)
 
 
I'd venture to guess the kids would be more likely to give it to you, rather 
than the other way around.
 
 
Why not think in terms of mode of transmission?  This is from earlier this 
year, maybe they know more now.
 
 
"Transmission: Transmission of novel influenza A (H1N1) is being studied as 
part of the ongoing outbreak investigation, but limited data available 
indicate that this virus is likely transmitted in ways similar to other 
influenza viruses. Seasonal human influenza viruses are thought to be 
transmitted between persons primarily through large-particle respiratory 
droplet transmission (e.g., when an infected person coughs or sneezes near a 
susceptible person). Transmission via these large-particle droplets requires 
close contact between source and recipient persons because droplets do not 
remain suspended in the air and generally travel only a short distance (< 6 
feet). Contact with contaminated surfaces is another possible source of 
transmission and transmission via small-droplet nuclei (also called 
“airborne” transmission) might also occur, but the contribution of these 
modes of transmission to influenza epidemiology is uncertain. Because data on 
the
 transmission of novel H1N1 viruses are limited, the potential for ocular, 
conjunctival, or gastrointestinal infection is unknown. Since this is a novel 
influenza A (H1N1) virus in humans, transmission from infected persons to 
close contacts might be common. All respiratory secretions and bodily fluids 
(diarrheal stool) of novel influenza A (H1N1) cases should be considered 
potentially infectious."

 
 
 
Droplets, ok so wear a mask in public.
Surface contact.... chlorine bleach is a great disinfectant.... wash hands 
w/bleach.  Bleach handi-wipes or hand sanitizer in purses anyone???
 
I've done just those simple things when the rest of the family was really 
sick (and I have lung disease that makes it really easy to get really 
sick).... worn masks around them until they were well, washed my hands 
constantly and with bleach. and twice a day wiped down any surfaces they came 
in contact with (desktops, light switches, phones, door knobs, bathrooms) 
daily.
 
Informaiton on exact transmission of H1N1 seems sketchy, but those are 
probably good precautions.  If I had to work around the public, I would 
definitely wear a mask.
 
 

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--- On Wed, 7/29/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:




As CNN announces that the military is planning and poised to react in an 
H1N1 outbreak, and with cases in Britain doubling by the week, and with 
growing numbers of people sick in the this country, what are y'all doing 
to prepare for the Swine flu, and how long will you be able to 
financially survive a lock down, martial law type environment if you 
can't work?

Personally, I'd be in trouble. I'd bet I wouldn't be alone because the 
economy has eaten up savings accounts and there are millions without an 
income.  Could the flu be the straw that breaks the economic camel's back?

>From what I understand, this virus is really hitting hard on the 
younger populations, those under 25 especially.  I could never forgive 
myself if I got the virus and transmitted it to my granddaughter, 
daughter, or son.

Just wondering if anyone is thinking about it...


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Lynn Wigglesworth wrote:
> The 'normal' flu kills thousands of people every year.

True, but the difference this time with the Swine flu is that the
elderly seem somewhat immune.  This virus is very similar to the H1N1
strain that caused so many deaths in WWI, the so called Spanish Flu.  As
Rob noted, the current Swine Flu is also seeming to follow the MO of the
Spanish Flu, and that is scary.  While anything can happen-it could even
be worse than in 1918, the future is unknown.  It could, like SARS,
disappear almost entirely into a benign form.
In a normal year, influenza kills thousands, like you say, mostly the
elderly and the infirmed.  Weakened immune systems just can't fight it
off, and in many cases, the lingering illness becomes pneumonia which is
the typical culprit .
The elderly seem to be somewhat immune to this strain of Swine Flu,
possibly due to their exposure to the similar or weakened strains of
H1N1 in the teens and twenties of the last century.  That partial
immunity may still sicken them, but it may not kill them.  The current
strain of the Swine flu is afflicting people under middle age-with good
immunse systems, the working age group, not the retiree age group, and
that could make an economic difference.  More will miss work because
many schools will close creating a day care problem for parents.



> I do think if a lot of people get sick, it will wreck havoc on the
> country. Our financial system, unemployment, health care, are all
> weak, and adding a lot of strain will bring it all down. I hope the
> powers that be have a plan. Personally I'll sit snug until it's over.
>
Apparently they have a plan, although I'm not sure we will like it very
much.  I just hope it doesn't come to that....

On a strange side note, I read that RA biologics like Enbrel are being
given to test subjects who have confirmed swine flu.  The reason people
die from influenza is because they develop pneumonia quickly and their
lungs fill with fluid.  It is essentially the body's hyper-immune
response, trying to flush out the bad organism.   Enbrel and other
biologics, suppress that hyperactive immune response-that is how they
work to put RA and other auto immune diseases into remission.
Essentially, the flu patient taking Enbrel will get sick, and the
sickness will drag on, but pneumonia never develops.  I thought that was
pretty cool and wanted to pass that on since we are talking about
immunity and influenza.

Here's yet another page on the virus, similar to the one Lynda posted:
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

Bev


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EarthNSky Farm, NW Georgia, USA