Homestead mailing list

[bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Lynda, I think you are aware enough of my personality, that I don't much care 
if you call me a "city slicker" or a "wannabe" or "The Lone Ranger".  I see 
interesting stuff on all kinds of sites, whatever labels you choose to use.  
And, I totally agree that a lot of the fiercely 'independent' and 
'self-reliant' claims people make on internet lists and forums are hogwash or 
at least greatly exaggerated.

When was the last time I argued with you  ;-)

p.s.  Thanks for the tip on the food dehydrator.  I'm a little excited about 
the find, as trivial as it is , in the bigger scheme of things

---------------------------------------------------------------




--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:

> From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homesteading & Survivalists
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 10:43 AM
> Bob, fear is NOT a synonym for concern.
> 
> And this e-mail clearly shows that you don't really
> understand homesteading or survivalists!
> 
> I've seen a whole bunch of survivalist sites.  I get
> routine invitation to join them because they want to pick my
> brain <g>  However, of the dozens and dozens of such
> sites, I have yet to find one that is *primately* made up
> of/inhabited by homesteaders.  And we've already been
> around the bend about the difference between a farmer and a
> homesteader.
> 
> And you obviously aren't a student of the human animal.
>  For starters, a survivalist is fear driven and thus cannot
> be fearless.  And because one is "fearless and
> self-reliant" doesn't mean they don't have
> individual personality traits.
> 
> I mean, we can label you a city slicker since you don't
> meet the definition of urbanite.  Your stubborn, inclined to
> argue.  Does that mean *all* city slickers are stubborn and
> argumentative?  Ah, no.
> 
> A homesteader meets certain definitions but that
> doesn't mean they aren't individuals.
> 
> Plus, how do you really know who or what those folks on
> lists are?  I've found a whole bunch of those folks who
> make claims on lists are simply playing pretend.
> 
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bobf"
> <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homesteading & Survivalists
> 
> 
> > So, there is no 'fear' at all among
> 'real' homesteaders?  No concern of the future, no
> dependence on outside forces?  That is not what I have read
> from 'anyone'.  Also, I imagine a
> 'survivalist' can 'love' the land while
> worrying of the future or 'fearing' forces beyond
> their control.  I love the land and I am neither -- nor do I
> see much insight from much of the recent spate of group
> labeling.   Some survivalists sites are primarily inhabited
> by urbanites, some by rural farmers and homessteaders.
> > 
> > A fearless, loving, independent self-reliant
> "whatever' doesn't need to try to seek approval
> by disparaging the other.  There is crossover bewtween many
> of these groups.  If a person is fearless and self-reliant,
> then great; but that person will not be wassting their time
> disparaging similar groups of different orientation.......
> > 
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Lynn Wigglesworth
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Lynn Wigglesworth
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homesteading &
> Survivalists
> >> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 7:22 AM
> >> >  The only thing more monotenous than
> listening to a
> >> survivalist talk about
> >> > his MREs is listening to someone who thinks
> he/she is
> >> a rung-up from a
> >> > survivalist spend countless time mocking the
> >> survivlaists and explaining,
> >> > over and over and over , and over why they
> are not ,
> >> themselves, a type of
> >> > 'survivalist.
> >> >
> >> 
> >> I think that applies to a lot of people on this
> list. The
> >> only reason we
> >> protest is because survivalist nonsense keeps
> appearing on
> >> the list. Are
> >> someone said, a survivalist acts out of fear. A
> homesteader
> >> acts out of love
> >> of the land and a sense of independence. It's
> a big
> >> difference, and the
> >> philosophies are mutually incompatible.
> >> 
> >> Lynn Wigglesworth
> >> Tioga Co. PA
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Homestead list and subscription:
> >>
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead
> >> Change your homestead list member options:
> >>
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/homestead/bobford79%40yahoo.com
> >> View the archives at:
> >> https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Homestead list and subscription:
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead
> > Change your homestead list member options:
> >
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/homestead/lurine%40com-pair.net
> > View the archives at:
> > https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead
> > 
> > 
> > -- No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG.
> > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1900 -
> Release Date: 1/18/2009 12:11 PM
> > 
> >